I could never wear a grey shirt, on the grounds it might make me look like a member of Joy Division. And yet... London Fog outerwear, Paine cashmere, sweatshirt - all fine. Grey flannels or chinos, too. Nor do I like black, except for footwear, when it's an essential colour. Madras - fine for shirts and shorts - not for jackets or trews - not for me, not now. Yellow is also largely out, and anything suggestive of 'preppie' really. Blues and greens seem to do it all: in outerwear, shirts, knitwear, cords, scarves. I would have difficulty with maroon or burgundy below the waist, too.
Is it just me?
Those brushed cotton shirts that every young schoolboy in the 1950s wore are enough to exclude grey as a shirt colour for adults. They were worn with terylene short trousers, grey wool knee socks and grey knitwear. I would still wear grey knitwear and trousers but there is something about the shirts. Same goes for grown men wearing shorts in the UK unless they are playing sport or on a beach .
Yellow is difficult unless you have blonde hair or the right skin tone.
Black is fine in an overcoat.
Madras for shirts only but I would wear a tartan tie -never a jacket or trousers.
There's a certain bluish grey that I would consider wearing as a shirt material. Certainly not Joy Division style, more Caetano Veloso.
As has been noted before, why is it that middle aged Joy Division fans consider Ian Curtis a poet of some distinction for having used the word "conquistador" in one his morose dirges?
Beats me. I met Ian Curtis a week or so before he died and he seemed a normal, likeable sort of bloke. I had an eighteen year old with enormous boobs go all dewy-eyed on me when I told the (brief) tale. It was as though I'd jammed with Parker and Gillespie on VE Day in some dank New York basement. Funny the way folks are over Dylan, Hendrix, Curtis, Cobain and the entire maudlin/hippy roll-call.
^ What is to say ?
It would be alright if was just going to bed. Looks like he already has his pyjama bottoms and slippers on.
Maybe he is Italian? So someone who would rightly be called a Wally in England is transformed into sartorial stylist. Anyway it is close to 'catwalk' and should not really concern us.
Kingstonian, I was trying hard to keep a straight face there. I'd put money on him being Italian. Not a good look in my opinion either, much as I like some of their other attempts at 'cool'.
Some fairly scathing comments on rolled up trahseez if you scroll down on this blog
http://thetorchsociety.blogspot.com/
Oh, now the Torch Society is listening to Ornette Coleman... Is it our fault?
It's a little bit like reading Joyce in a "special school", I guess, but I hope it will do no harm...
Weejun, declare your interest...
Oh yes. I always enjoyed reading his stuff.
Passionately put, Hank - I could see how he might not have done a Lenny Bruce in terms of winning friends and influencing people (or am I thinking of Carnegie?) - but, under cover of darkness, I enjoy reading malicious jibes about sacred cows. Remember Orwell on socialism? Stalin on the Second Front? You don't have to agree with a syllable of it, but it kind of thickens up the blood. I'd have liked to have seen SC go head to head with GG.
As Uncle would say: maybe?
TBH his idea is perfect. He clearly likes the classics but wears them with his own personal vision, turning him in to "sartorial stylist" and not keeping him as some uncreative drone lead by Flusser or whoever writes those books or even worse that Torch Society person who really is an absolute nut job(and ex-criminal judging by one of his old posts...) and rejects any personal vision in dressing which I imagine would mean we all end up looking like him which would be a fucking travesty. Is he even trolling?
To be fair - and Hard Bop, Alex and Jesmond all know far more about this than I - there is a wide spectrum. Ivy style in the beginning always appears more playful to my way of thinking than virtually anything that came after. Italy post-war was probably more colour-interesting in some ways than the United States. Then the orthodoxies of the Eisenhower years came into being. What was it? Five and a half days a week thou shalt be monochrome, and on Saturday afternoon, on the golf course, you might risk a Drizzler...?
Don't even ask about England until around 1967. London maybe, but not England. (I know Roger Burton might dispute this. So might Lloyd Johnson). A smack around the head for looking in the mirror? Sounds about right. Former skinheads I know have mellowed down into their polo shirts and smart cardigans from Gant or Katherine H. Dull.
Adam, I'm getting on now; take no notice, son.