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#1 2010-08-02 03:42:57
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My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
Now that he's gone to live in sunnier climes I can freely acknowledge my debt to him. He told me a very great deal about religion, history, colour, perspective, texture etc. etc. Jesmond, I feel sure, would have been interested in the depth and the subtle nature of his 'informing' (as opposed to 'teaching' perhaps). I'm not the only one to have benefited.
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#2 2010-08-02 03:53:31
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
I reposted some of his stuff. You have more I think. Care to share?
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#3 2010-08-02 04:22:49
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
I wish I still had it, but it was all on my daughter's e-mail account, which is now defunct. I would have gladly shared it, though.
#5 2010-08-02 06:49:01
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
'The Ivy suit never puts on an act'. I remember that well. It really doesn't need to. A sack is right off the radar anyway; an updated is, to most eyes, just another suit. Beauty, in this instance, is only in the eye of the beholder who is beholding in the wardrobe mirror.
#6 2010-08-03 02:08:43
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
I've dropped him a line at his old email address... And I'll give him ring him if he's slow replying. It would be nice to pick his brains a bit more.
#7 2010-08-06 06:12:38
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
He told me, you don't want to look as if you're at an Ivy League university but that you might have been at one once.
That's another reason why I'm buying the Marsh/Gall book and not 'Take Ivy'.
#8 2010-08-06 06:56:55
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
I'm gonna buy both books...
However, I think you've touched something there...
IL is just a marketing term for the old Brooks Brothers natural shoulder style... the campus fashion since the 30s were a factor... and the growing popularity since WWII is a factor, too... but IL as a marketing term, the name that stuck... how old is it, really... 1953/54?
It was a smart look at that time, and within a few years it was all-American, everyman...
The look in TI is already a different thing.... Maybe, the real Ivy League students of the 60s were often trying to avoid the smart Ivy League look at that time...
You don't want to sport that letterman stuff if you're past your 20s...
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#10 2010-08-06 09:13:06
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
The first Ad I've seen using the term Ivy League in a marketing context is around 1936/7, very shortly after the term itself was coined. It was for Button-down collared shirts.
- But Hank is right the really heavy-handed marketing of THE IVY LEAGUE LOOK was mainly a big deal in the 50's.
#11 2010-08-06 09:15:39
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
To shift all those exciting new man-made fibres like Dacron?
#13 2010-08-06 09:20:49
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Re: My Own Ivy Icon: Patrick Nahman
Ploy, ploy, ploy - have you seen some of the more prosaic catalogues of the time? Deeply unhip...