^Nice pic, never seen that one before (obviously as it's from a private collection I take it). Loads of 'the usual' but some terrific photos there e.g. those Peckham Mods in bumfreezers etc.
BTW, the title picture of the facebook group shows Lloyd Johnson and his girlfriend (at the time) Sarah Nilson. Lloyd is wearing a Haspel seersucker jacket...
So can you send me the link and I'll post it? Tomorrow...
The bloke who set up that group (Lloyd Johnson) mentions putting the record straight re-the original Modernists, there are some good stories to be found among the comments backing that up, too. They should probably do something about it and publish a book about 'the real people' (LJ again) who were there in the very beginning i.e. pre Small Faces, The Who, beachfights and parkas galore
Last edited by Alex Roest (2010-08-10 11:10:24)
I'm sorry but I think the VAST majority of the pics on Lloyd's page are bloody awful. Typical lumpen prole youth. Apart from John Simons' pictures I've only seen one picture of British 1960's 'mod' youth that intrigues me and that's the one from the 'Mods!' book of the three slightly older guys with good hair, shoulder line and shirt/tie combos. Even then I seem to recall their cuffs are far too long on their jackets so that seriously spoils it.
g.g.
Last edited by Alex Roest (2010-08-10 22:08:18)
I wouldn't want to provoke anyone as nice as Hard Bop - I like him very much - but the Small Faces - to me anyway - represent something truly awful about 1960s British pop music. All that late-ish cockney mockney cheer, the sly drugs references... almost as bad - no, worse - than The Who. People like Marriott and Meaden have a lot to answer for.
Interestingly enough I vastly prefer their later psychedelic output (not the mockney knees-ups, but the sly drug references, dabbling in Sufi imagery etc) to their earlier 'mod' stuff - lumpen cover version of watered-down black pop music, offered up for the lumpen prole youth they were playing for.
But then, my musical tastes put me firmly into the 'swirly' camp.
Last edited by zuckermandl (2010-08-10 14:48:06)
i never got it. cartoonish to me. listening to it i have a hard time believing that they ever did anything harder than cough medicine. the legal record seems to prove otherwise....maybe someone was selling them catnip ciggies and baking powder cut with caffeine? itchycoo park is allright, but for bubblegum goofs the hollies, the turtles, and the hermits are a thousand times better.
I'm not entirely convinced that any of those well-known 60s groups - the ones who found it expedient to become hippies - ever had much genuine sense of style. I don't know about people like Graham Bond, Zoot Money etc. No idea. Oddly enough, the Rolling Stones don't look too awful in some of the early photographs. Charlie looks the best, of course, but Brian Jones was okay in his way. 'Neat sweaters and desert boots' I recall reading somewhere - which really doesn't sound too bad. It's these self-consciously moddy groups I have a bone to pick with. Yes, the Townsend in the Ivy Shop/John Lally drinking with The Who stories are entertaining enough, but the overall rotten impact those kind of people had on style beggars belief.
I particularly detest Keith Moon.
^The earlier of those groups were middle class art school types who later took up the hippie mantra. Later on the Johnny-come-lately bands were mainly buffonted wannabes without much idea. DD,D,B,M&T epitomise this style. They turned up after the horse had bolted so-to-speak.
Many of the photos on Lloyds site look to be working-class Londoners who happened to be mods just out enjoying themselves. Nothing wrong with that at all, but I don't imagine they ever thought anyone would be analyizing their every detail nearly 50 years on.
PS I liked Keith too.....
Last edited by Chris_H (2010-08-12 04:54:26)
I've read it. And the one on Stevie Marriott. And last year, on holiday in France, I was reduced to reading some rubbish about Keef Richard before going for my after dinner walk. Read Mark Timlin? Pulp but page-turning. I'm taking Michael and John with me this year. As recommended.