From quickly perusing The Ivy Look, I am under the impression that Ivy is less concerned than say, 'Mod', with the slimmer profile.
Or have I got the wrong impression?
I would say yes - or at at least, it's more relaxed - the Mod slim profile can verge on the caricature at times, I think - and doesn't really work unless you're in you 20's.
Don't forget that Mod (see Understated and Cool from Alex elsewhere on this Forum) was not always so tight as it is often interpreted today.
Quit right - I'm talking about the modern interpretation of Mod, rather than the whole gamut of past Mod styles (a lot of which I love) - it seems to have solidified into a bit of rule for some people, like low rise trousers and no turn-ups........etc.
I'm pleased to hear this.
Although by no means possessing a bodybuilder type physique, 25 years (on and off) of lifting weights has bestowed me with a musculature that has seen many a pair of 'slim fit' jeans etc. get no further than the middle of my thighs
25 years of drinking like a bastard has bestowed me with a body that hasn't seen any 'slim fit' clobber get any further than my ankles!
The original mod style was created/adopted by teenage speed freaks living in an age of austerity, so looking good in tapered/slim-fitting clothes was not a problem for them. Whether similar styles also look good on heavy-drinking middle-aged slobs 50 or 60 years later is not for me to say.
To return to the op, the Italian look was slimmer than the ivy look, both were part of the mod canon but I believe the former was more popular, hence the slim look of the mod style.
Let's face it, ivy isn't exactly baggy though - unless you wear Bill's and Mercer that is.
Last edited by Yuca (2010-09-03 07:54:47)
I think part of the fit of ivy clothes comes from the hand-me-down nature of the way Ivy kids (before it was a style) wore their clothes: trousers that you grew out of two years ago and your Dad's old sportcoat you're going to grow into. Hence the half-mast, slim-fit trousers and loose coats. All artfully crumpled from being hung-up on the floor.
I bet you could open beerbottles on Tomiskinky's cheekbones.
It's the original slim look!
At least, that's how it was perceived when it became fashionable in 1953/54....
You have to compare it to what was happening before in order to understand it.
That doesn't mean it's skinny, of course... There's always a little room, even with a slim line. That's what Brooks Brothers refers to with "generosity".
I agree, just thought you meant slim fit was not suitable at all over a certain age... Skinny is awful, and I know a few who are on the knife edge of being in that camp.
The over the top mod look, is what I call the Plastic Mod, seems more in keeping with the revival than the source.
Go 'beat' young man
You can get away with murder. You can be a right fat fucker, It's bohemian, anything goes!