Never thought I'd say this, but you can do more or less anything with them. I've bashed mine around Rome and immersed them in rock pools. My feet stayed dry. I hope those workers are treated well. They deserve to be. Just being honest here, you understand.
I agree. Mine are holding up well.
I'd always been a bit sniffy about them, even though Ken Lovegrove said they weren't bad but did I remember the ones with a higher top? (I don't, I'm too young), and because, as Gibson Gardens noted elsewhere, Ken is passionate about the old English-made. Certainly the English-made Clarks' chukka boots I own are exceptionally nice - and were an Ebay bargain. These new Mali I do not like the look of.
No, we shouldn't do this... the enemy is reading... you're telling them you've paid more than you used to pay for the made in England ones... and that you're happy about them...
This is the internet, think about it!
Let's shut that thread or better delete it!
Just shitting, I'm wearing them right now, but I'm not proud about it!
Not any better or worse than any Clarks I've had in the last 40 years.
I doubt a Vietnamese shoe factory is any better or worse to work in than a Portuguese one either. Just a thought.
It's got to be better than the one that was in Weston-super-Mare.
I could take a side by side comparison picture of the English and Vietnamese ones but it wouldn't show a lot of difference. If any.
I bought a pair of Clarks when they first started outsourcing - I guess about 12 years ago? Maybe longer. They were truly astoundingly awful - rigid, poor shape, uncomfortable, cheap crepe sole. Oh how I lamented the passing of the Clarks Desert Boots. But I love them, along with the Weejun, they're all I really wear. So I thought I'd try again and lo and behold the pair I bought a year ago were just bang on right. Back to the old quality levels - flexible, bouncy sole, good suede, perfect toe shape. My opposition to outsourcing is 80% aesthetic, 20% political. If Bass or Ralph or Clarks or any number of companies can get their goods made up to scratch in the cheap labour markets then my opposition recedes a little, like my hair. Invariably I don't think they can. OK Clarks have definitely pulled this one off, God bless em (though made in Street, Somerset meant something didn't it? - I find it depressing beyond words that the old factory where they made them is now a fucking 'shopping village', akin to the beautiful Fiat Lingotto factory in Turin now being a luxury hotel/shopping thing). And Uniqlo get cotton basics made to a decent spec in China. But high quality handmade leather goods? No it's got to be US, UK, France or Italy. Can you imagine a made in Vietnam Paraboot? (I think the Paraboot was an omission from The Ivy Look by the way - should have got one of their great old ads in. Too late now...)
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The big Clarks in Kingston only had Vietnamese desert boots on display for one or two months at the height of Summer. Smaller Clarks just do not seem to sell them at all.
Kingstonian is right, I think. I saw them in southern Italy but then had to buy in a big shop in Nottingham. Derby - never on the map for any reason since the days of Clough and Taylor - didn't stock them.
I still have issues with their weird sizing, even though I managed to get a hand on a UK 13 (!). The still feel uncomfortable in the toe area to me, and I have a pretty narrow foot...strange.
Mm... I find them comfortable enough. The only issue I have - and this applies to all of my boots - is with the laces. My wife, fortunately, is an expert at unpicking knots. One snapped the first day in France, so we had to cobble something together. I do like a boot that looks good when battered and dirty.
I love the fact that in Italy you see them EVERYWHERE. When the Clarks disappear from their shop windows and Starbucks move in (as is rumoured) well that's when I switch my obsessive love to alternative sources. Under consideration : Brazil (music, climate, women, coffee, Niemeyer), Finland (Aalto, welfare state, Billion Dollar Brain), Asmara(Eritrea) (old Italy, art deco, Borsalino hats, old Africans talking Italian), Japan (Wabi-Sabi, Button-Down Club, Free & Easy, Van Jacket and that tree pruning thing they do...). Do I seem superficial to you?
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Not sure how you can dislike David Milliband because you suspect, with no photographic evidence!, that he is a Starbucks man. Milliband or Cameron? Milliband or Cameron? Mmm, not a tough one. The Millibands went to a comp near where I live, Highbury Grove. I love them. God bless them. And also near me in Finsbury Park are some good Eritrean caffe' (s). They understand how to tease the best out of the bean. Unlike, let's agree, the vile scum of Starbucks.
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LOL! I tend to dislike politicians full stop, for all sorts of reasons. Miliband is a Blair and Bush blessed lad it seems. I came across their father as a sociology student back in the day and I know Benn is a friend of the family. Ed worries me, but not as much as his namesake, Mr. Balls. I don't mind socialists - I happen to be married to one - so long as they're more like Jeremy Corbyn. But, as a former Labour activist, Toffeeman, I can assure you that these people are often up to no good. I've rubbed shoulders with Benn, Kinnock, Hoon, John Smith, Beckett (too close for comfort), Skinner etc. etc. Robert Laxton, the former MP for Derby North, is a grand chap; and so are many of the rank and file. I think you'll find Cameron is a tougher cookie than he appears. I like Jon Cruddas myself, but he was never really in the running. Isn't Diane Abbott your MP?
I do resent the notion, by the way, that all the finest minds are on the left. That has not been my experience.
I make it a habit to read from Left to Right. Anyone reading Chomsky, though, is far ahead of me nowadays. Tony Benn's diaries are a fine read, as is Simon Heffer's biography of Enoch. I enjoyed talking to Tony. He asked me, back in 1984, if I owned a computer. I don't think I knew anyone who did.
Er......do all these people wear desert boots then? I'm trying to imagine Diane Abbot in some, but the image just isn't coming through.
woof, you'll find that 'Talk Ivy' does go off-topic from time to time. Possibly Diane is a Jimmy Choo sort of girl; who knows?