Any Ivy elements creeping in there? If so, will they be more acceptable to the forumites than mainstream Republicans?
Where does Jimmy Stewart fit into all of this? Where Steve McQueen? Where Frankie Boy?
I did like Sarah Palin during the election. I like this new chick even better. Apparently they were selling Sarah Palin dollies. Staceyboy and I were going to divide the cost between us, until we found it would not inflate to life size.
Is this what Big Tony would refer to as 'trolling'?
Seriously, I've read that Steve McQueen was either a Republican or apolitical. Just racking my brains over William Holden. Clint Eastwood used to get a look-in on 'Talk Ivy', though I have not seen him mentioned recently. I always thought his inclusion as an Ivyist a little dubious. Anyone know anything about John Kerr? The great Robert Duvall was also a Republican of a moderate kind. So, I think, was Dennis Hopper.
was there something deleted? I get the feeling, having been absent for just a few days, that there were some keyboard fights going on, some misunderstandings possibly, and a few deletions that make it hard to understand the context...
No, just me saying ''ello'.
''Ello? What do you mean 'ello? Provocative fucker..."
Kelsey Grammer is the leading celebrity Republican. Bruce Willis, Ted Nugent and Bo Derek are active Republicans Charlton Heston was the GOP and NRA poster boy before his death.
Penn & Teller, Clint Eastwood, Aaron Russo (deceased), Kurt Russell, Tom Selleck (Magnum PI), Howard Stern and Drew Carey describe(d) themselves as libertarians.
Penn & Teller's Bullshit! and it's a brilliant show, altho this past season was pretty weak, I think they ran out of stuff to call bullshit on.
I love it when they do taste comparisons, like bottled water vs tap, organic fruit vs non, etc.....and see how many proponents of the "better" stuff cant tell the difference.
as far as the Tea Party goes...on the fence about that lot. But a shakeup is always good. Now find me a SECULAR right wing party and I'll jump on that wagon
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"NSDAP? sorry too many letters for me to try and figure out!
Dick van Dyke? I always thought of him as apolitical
'Hi honey, I'm home! Just popping out to a Republican/Democrat(delete as appropriate)fundraiser'
More the sharp American style, when times were good he had it all- the pretty wife, the clothes, the car.
What more did he need - apart from maybe a hallway in his house?
I tend to agree with a lot of "Libertarian" point of views, the problem with them is they've never been able to assert themselves as a dominant 3rd party alternative even though they've always been on the fringe of doing so and unfortunately never get more than 1% of votes during elections. Their belief in a dissolution of most regulations can be frightening, sort of like an anarchists' point of view when he says "anarchy would work if everyone was like me". While I like the idea of smaller govt, unfortunately the masses are too stupid to let fend for themselves and a bit of handholding will always be essential in modern society
I think they might put the wind up a few kilts come November.
In Europe the word "libertarian" is used almost synonymous with "anarchist", I guess...
Americans wouldn't know what a "libertarian socialist" wants, but then again, the libertarian socialists probably don't know it, themselves...
And Hitler's pronounced respect for Islam.
The problem with the Tea Party is what it had to give up to have what power it does today. The Tea Party started out of the ashes of the 2008 Paul campaign. (I know, I was there and worked on said campaign). It quickly picked up a lot of followers as an enormous amount of people began seeing our government spending continue to spiral out of control. It certainly started with Dubya and his sad ass wars, but has only been made worse by the great savior. I would of hoped that "my fellow Americans" could of seen through the bit of inane sloganeering that was "hope and change". It's the same old tired promises in a new package. Fast forward to 2010 and the Tea Party in its quest to upset the apple cart has jumped into bed with any non-incumbent that could further their brand. On the plus side a lot of great ideas have now become mainstream but I don't think this is the movement that ushers in real change in this country. We will get some tolerable politicians out of it and at this stage that is the best you can hope for. I am heartened to see that the generation after mine (I was born in '81) seems to be more and more libertarian. They are also technology addicts and pathetic Facebook narcissists like their parents, but you have to take the good with the bad.
I just interviewed the founder — and as far as I can tell, the sole member — of this outfit.
http://peacepoetreeparty.info/