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#1 2006-11-24 14:25:04
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British Teddy Boys
http://www.interted.org/story.html
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#2 2006-11-24 15:13:43
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Re: British Teddy Boys
"Are you a mod or a rocker?"--Reporter in "A Hard Day's Night"
Ringo: "I'm a mocker."
The Beatles started off as "Teddy Boys" before Brian Epstein took away their greasy pompadours, white Tees and leather jackets and put them in proper suits to make them more presentable--and palatable--to a mainstream audience. The most memorable suit, to my mind at least, was the Pierre Cardin collarless kind. Rock on.
#3 2006-11-24 19:49:57
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Re: British Teddy Boys
Is this like, Zoot suit, white jacket with side burns, 5 inches long?
#4 2006-11-27 14:46:26
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Re: British Teddy Boys
This is a very nice photo site with pics of 50s Teddy GIRLS, into the same subculture as Teddy Boys (50s rocknroll, jitterbug etc)
http://teddygirl.co.uk/photos.htm
Teddy Boy style is really interesting imo. A mix of Edwardian with 50s rocknroll, since it was a 50s youth cult that took its look from Edwardian dress. Unfortunately the purity of the original 50s scene got cartoonified in the 70s when the Ted revival occured with Teds adopting silly pink and powder blue drape coats.
*technically the Beatles werent ever Teds, altho they adopted the rockabilly look pre 63. I read some quotes by Lennon saying that altho they imitated the Ted look they never called themselves teddy boys as the real ones who came to their early gigs were much tougher and meaner than any of the Beatles ever were. on a similar note, Roger Daltrey was a teddy boy before he became a mod with the High Numbers aka The Who. I've seen pics of Daltrey in a pomp and drape from those days.
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#6 2006-11-27 15:21:16
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Re: British Teddy Boys
Loved that, Get Smart.
A great find.
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#7 2006-11-27 15:35:30
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Re: British Teddy Boys
another good site with pics of 50s/60s Teds
http://www.teddyboy.co.uk/
in contrast with recent (70's onward) photos....
http://www.teddyboycollared.com/
#10 2009-09-23 15:19:30
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: British Teddy Boys
There was something called "Edwardian style" in the USA in the late 50s, too, I read somewhere recently, but I guess, it was something completely different from British Teddy Boy, no youth culture connection.
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#11 2009-09-24 11:13:32
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#12 2011-11-22 05:38:54
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Re: British Teddy Boys
Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2011-11-22 05:54:56)
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#13 2011-11-22 06:10:35
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: British Teddy Boys
there's also some good pictures:
http://www.nickelinthemachine.com/
from over on Talk Ivy:
http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/viewtopic.php?id=9243&p=1
post # 23
and I remember that Tony had a nice university article about Spivs and Teds, the New Edwardian and the American Look, with a sketch of Cecil Gee's American Look in the late 40s or early 50s...
Can't remember where, I think it was The Ace Face signs off...
maybe also interesting in relation to the early 60s English styles was the thread with the pictures from 1961:
http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/viewtopic.php?id=3185
Spotlight on top-class tailoring 1961
and the Bond suits by Anthony Sinclair
http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/viewtopic.php?id=6955
Conduit Cut etc......
very off topic now.....
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#14 2011-11-22 06:27:28
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: British Teddy Boys
back to Teds:
http://www.edwardianteddyboyassociation.com/page11.htm
on Edwardian Tailoring...
lots of dubious pictures of throw back 50s and revival teddy boys there...
wasn't there a thread on the Sharp Suits book by Muskrave here, or a thread on 50s and 60s City Gent and New Edwardian styles or was that on Andyland or another forum?
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#15 2011-11-22 08:29:08
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#16 2011-11-22 08:52:59
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Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2011-11-22 08:53:36)
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#17 2011-11-22 09:09:00
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: British Teddy Boys
and here's the Manchester University Press article that Big Tony found a while ago:
http://www.manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/uploads/docs/Horn%20chapter%205.pdf
http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/viewtopic.php?id=6137
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#18 2011-12-29 10:51:23
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: British Teddy Boys
not on Teddy Boys, but on the New Edwarian Look and the Edwardian influence in 50s and 60s fashion:
http://www.cutterandtailor.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1129&st=0
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#19 2011-12-29 11:27:24
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