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#1 2011-11-11 09:05:31

The_Shooman
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Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Silvano Lattanzi patinas
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/SilvanoLattanzishoes-colourful.jpg

French patinas by Paulus Bolten
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina2.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina3.jpg

Even more amazing to come......


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#2 2011-11-11 09:08:58

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

French patinas by `Glacage Chaussures'
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina4.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina5.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina7.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina6.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina8.jpg


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#3 2011-11-11 09:20:10

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Kiton shoos - the dull boy among the patina peacocks
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Kitonbluecaptoe.jpg

Patina by Paulus Bolten
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina10.jpg

Amateur patina done by the `shoe snob' bloke - his blog is host to a bunch of these photos.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo2jpg.jpg

A 4 year patina on Silvano Lattanzi shoos after being buried in the ground for 4 years, but cost well over $10,000
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Lattanzipatinashoos.jpg

Tommorrow l will save some of the best pictures...some of the most amazing shoo patinas you will ever see. Pure art...patinas to the highest levels...BEAUTIFUL!!! Here's just a quick sample:

Imai Hiroki patinas - perhaps the king of the patina peacocks, true art
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki6.jpg


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#4 2011-11-11 19:38:58

meister
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Nice! Patina has grown on me and I have a few pairs where it has happened naturally from wear and tear.

 

#5 2011-11-11 20:00:12

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

meister wrote:

Nice! Patina has grown on me and I have a few pairs where it has happened naturally from wear and tear.

Most patinas look shitty (see John Lobb), but the patina of Lattanzi (see buried shoos) is amazing and so is the first picture of this thread. The patinas of Imai Hiroki are also amazing and worth getting. The other French patinas here aren't as well done.

l am getting Mr X to put a patina on my trial bespoke shoo for historical purposes and abit of a giggle. l want to see Australian patina talent.


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#6 2011-11-11 20:03:24

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

More `Imai Hiroki' awesomeness
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina11.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki7.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki5.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki4.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki9.jpg


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#7 2011-11-11 20:08:34

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Imai Hiroki
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki2.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki3.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo-ImaiHiroki8.jpg

Other patinas done by various people
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Patinashoo3.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Hamilton-Cap-Oxford.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Frenchshoopatina12.jpg


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#8 2011-11-12 02:44:41

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

To be honest I think they all look tacky.

 

#9 2011-11-12 03:22:38

Sammy Ambrose
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Most if not all of these seem to be examples of painting rather than patination.


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#10 2011-11-12 03:56:54

formby
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Patina should be allowed to develop with age and use.

Most of those above whilst showcasing undoubted skill look kitsch to be honest.


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#11 2011-11-12 05:42:10

Simon
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Are you off the weeds and on the mushrooms Shoester?


Blatant Modernist.

 

#12 2011-11-12 06:29:38

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

formby wrote:

Patina should be allowed to develop with age and use.

A natural patina is always better.

Most of those above whilst showcasing undoubted skill look kitsch to be honest.

l had to look up the word "kitsch", what a funny old word. But true, many are "kitsch"; but the Imai Hiroki painted patinas have a beautiful warm hue to them. Having one or two pairs of shoos painted with his world class patinas wouldn't do a bloke any harm. The other patinas are too streaky and over-the-top.

The shoos in post #6 are superb, and so are the Lattanzi's that have been buried for 4 years in the ground.


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#13 2011-11-12 06:38:40

formby
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

formby wrote:

Patina should be allowed to develop with age and use.

A natural patina is always better.

Most of those above whilst showcasing undoubted skill look kitsch to be honest.

l had to look up the word "kitsch", what a funny old word. But true, many are "kitsch"; but the Imai Hiroki painted patinas have a beautiful warm hue to them. Having one or two pairs of shoos painted with his world class patinas wouldn't do a bloke any harm. The other patinas are too streaky and over-the-top.

The shoos in post #6 are superb, and so are the Lattanzi's that have been buried for 4 years in the ground.

Well, kitsch is a loan word from German.

As Sammy Ambrose correctly says, most of those shoes aren't showing a 'patina' they're actually paint jobs and it shows.

I can understand why people like this kind of stuff but I'm not keen. Aubercy do a lot of this stuff IIRC.

Plus, it  breaks formby's shoe law.


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#14 2011-11-12 06:49:16

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

formby wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

formby wrote:

Patina should be allowed to develop with age and use.

A natural patina is always better.

Most of those above whilst showcasing undoubted skill look kitsch to be honest.

l had to look up the word "kitsch", what a funny old word. But true, many are "kitsch"; but the Imai Hiroki painted patinas have a beautiful warm hue to them. Having one or two pairs of shoos painted with his world class patinas wouldn't do a bloke any harm. The other patinas are too streaky and over-the-top.

The shoos in post #6 are superb, and so are the Lattanzi's that have been buried for 4 years in the ground.

Well, kitsch is a loan word from German.

As Sammy Ambrose correctly says, most of those shoes aren't showing a 'patina' they're actually paint jobs and it shows.

I can understand why people like this kind of stuff but I'm not keen. Aubercy do a lot of this stuff IIRC.

Plus, it  breaks formby's shoe law.




Ok.  I have to know - what is the formby shoe law?

 

#15 2011-11-12 07:04:51

formby
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

g- wrote:

formby wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

formby wrote:

Patina should be allowed to develop with age and use.

A natural patina is always better.


l had to look up the word "kitsch", what a funny old word. But true, many are "kitsch"; but the Imai Hiroki painted patinas have a beautiful warm hue to them. Having one or two pairs of shoos painted with his world class patinas wouldn't do a bloke any harm. The other patinas are too streaky and over-the-top.

The shoos in post #6 are superb, and so are the Lattanzi's that have been buried for 4 years in the ground.

Well, kitsch is a loan word from German.

As Sammy Ambrose correctly says, most of those shoes aren't showing a 'patina' they're actually paint jobs and it shows.

I can understand why people like this kind of stuff but I'm not keen. Aubercy do a lot of this stuff IIRC.

Plus, it  breaks formby's shoe law.




Ok.  I have to know - what is the formby shoe law?

Simple.

Shoes should be understated, they should please the eye but no more, they should elicit an admiring glance but not a stare. They should not provoke enquiry.


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#16 2011-11-12 07:11:27

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

formby wrote:

g- wrote:

formby wrote:


Well, kitsch is a loan word from German.

As Sammy Ambrose correctly says, most of those shoes aren't showing a 'patina' they're actually paint jobs and it shows.

I can understand why people like this kind of stuff but I'm not keen. Aubercy do a lot of this stuff IIRC.

Plus, it  breaks formby's shoe law.




Ok.  I have to know - what is the formby shoe law?

Simple.

Shoes should be understated, they should please the eye but no more, they should elicit an admiring glance but not a stare. They should not provoke enquiry.

bullshit!

 

#17 2011-11-12 07:13:30

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

l had to look up the word "kitsch", what a funny old word.

At the age of 16 we knew that kitsch meant 'in utmost bad taste'. We had to look it up to understand this Barry Ryan song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyH7jx8fHWM

I bet Barry would have like those painted shoes.


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#18 2011-11-12 07:18:17

formby
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

meister wrote:

formby wrote:

g- wrote:


[/b]


Ok.  I have to know - what is the formby shoe law?

Simple.

Shoes should be understated, they should please the eye but no more, they should elicit an admiring glance but not a stare. They should not provoke enquiry.

bullshit!

Ah, nice to see I've provoked a strong response.

I like that...!!!


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#19 2011-11-12 07:24:03

The_Shooman
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

g- wrote:

Ok.  I have to know - what is the formby shoe law?

Wear a shoo that is very very plain. No seams and no fancy colouring. l actually like `Formby's law' (that should be made a term in shoo-school. The teachers would say "now, make them according to Formby's law" and the student would know to make them plain and simple). When l was a boy l always bought shoos according to Formby's law, it was the only law l believed in back then, but now l have stretch my wings as my shoo career has become ALOT more advanced.

formby wrote:

Well, kitsch is a loan word from German.

As Sammy Ambrose correctly says, most of those shoes aren't showing a 'patina' they're actually paint jobs and it shows.

I can understand why people like this kind of stuff but I'm not keen. Aubercy do a lot of this stuff IIRC.

Plus, it  breaks formby's shoe law.

l am a shooman so it is o.k for me to like this stuff. Most of these shoos are not practical, but they are good for shooman and folks with many shoos. Non-shoomen are advised to keep well away!


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#20 2011-11-12 07:34:23

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

... Most of these shoos are not practical, but they are good for shooman and folks with many shoos. Non-shoomen are advised to keep well away!

Sound advice for shoe neophytes. These are not the shoes to buy for one's 'rotation'.


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#21 2011-11-12 08:07:00

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

They all look like they've been sprayed with bright metallic car paint, which of course they probably have.

I don't know, they don't look like the fine results of the rich patina that develops through environmental conditions and polishing over several years. There's no depth to those shoes, it's just a trick with Mr Sheen.

And for that reason, I'm out.


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#22 2011-11-12 15:29:10

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

A 4 year patina on Silvano Lattanzi shoos after being buried in the ground for 4 years, but cost well over $10,000
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … ashoos.jpg

Thatís completely mad. What effect does 4 years of being buried have on the structure of the leather? Though I guess the Italians arenít really that bothered about making long-lasting shoes...

The only ones I think I like are these
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … Oxford.jpg since the patina looks like it could have arisen from normal wear, with the toe-caps polished in a slightly darker shade. I would have thought that many of these shoes would look a lot better if the colours were developed with more layers of darker polish than the lighter dyes that seem to be used.

Incidentally, for what itís worth, I think a dark green is a great colour for shoes; I would probably regard it as an equal to ox-blood as the ďthirdĒ shoe colour after black and brown. Just a shame you donít see it very often.

 

#23 2011-11-12 19:32:07

The_Shooman
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

ajs wrote:

I would have thought that many of these shoes would look a lot better if the colours were developed with more layers of darker polish than the lighter dyes that seem to be used

Just two notes:

1). people get fake patinas because they don't want to wait 20 years for a natural one to develop. Most people want instant gratification.
2). l guess they use a dye so the patina doesn't come off. lf they used the expensive long way of building up layers of polish, the finish wouldn't last long enough and would de easily destroyed. The dye patina will always be underneath the shoe.


ajs wrote:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … Oxford.jpg
Incidentally, for what itís worth, I think a dark green is a great colour for shoes; I would probably regard it as an equal to ox-blood as the ďthirdĒ shoe colour after black and brown. Just a shame you donít see it very often.

The green antique is one of the best colours ever...just behind black and brown as you say. lt would be one of the only shoes that l would insist on having antiqued like the picture above.

l asked Mr X to make me a green shoo with antiquing, but he always refuses me.   sad lt's gotta be the right shade of green otherwise it will look as foul as buggery.


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#24 2011-11-12 20:13:26

meister
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

ajs wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

A 4 year patina on Silvano Lattanzi shoos after being buried in the ground for 4 years, but cost well over $10,000
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … ashoos.jpg

Thatís completely mad. What effect does 4 years of being buried have on the structure of the leather? Though I guess the Italians arenít really that bothered about making long-lasting shoes...

The only ones I think I like are these
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … Oxford.jpg since the patina looks like it could have arisen from normal wear, with the toe-caps polished in a slightly darker shade. I would have thought that many of these shoes would look a lot better if the colours were developed with more layers of darker polish than the lighter dyes that seem to be used.

Incidentally, for what itís worth, I think a dark green is a great colour for shoes; I would probably regard it as an equal to ox-blood as the ďthirdĒ shoe colour after black and brown. Just a shame you donít see it very often.

+1 x 100% last comment

 

#25 2011-11-13 04:46:38

formby
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

meister wrote:

ajs wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

A 4 year patina on Silvano Lattanzi shoos after being buried in the ground for 4 years, but cost well over $10,000
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … ashoos.jpg

Thatís completely mad. What effect does 4 years of being buried have on the structure of the leather? Though I guess the Italians arenít really that bothered about making long-lasting shoes...

The only ones I think I like are these
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … Oxford.jpg since the patina looks like it could have arisen from normal wear, with the toe-caps polished in a slightly darker shade. I would have thought that many of these shoes would look a lot better if the colours were developed with more layers of darker polish than the lighter dyes that seem to be used.

Incidentally, for what itís worth, I think a dark green is a great colour for shoes; I would probably regard it as an equal to ox-blood as the ďthirdĒ shoe colour after black and brown. Just a shame you donít see it very often.

+1 x 100% last comment

Which is still +1.

You obviously know a [little] more about shoes than you do about maths. wink


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