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#51 2012-09-20 18:40:53

John Rotten
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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Those shoes are pretty fucking fantastic..

 

#52 2012-09-20 21:28:54

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

isshinryu101 wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

Edward Green `Canterbury'
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/ … d1f8a1.jpg

I do like this EG model.  However, for what they are, I think the antiquing on the toe is just a bit much.  It seems that an artificial patina on a shoe like this should be as close to actual (realistic) patina as possible.

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab11 … 496910.jpg

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab11 … eefbd3.jpg

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab11 … 89e45d.jpg

1940's NOS.  The Natural Patina on the upper broguing and stitching comes from the color of the brown stitching slowly bleeding (ever so slightly) into the upper leather.  100% natural.

I agree that I prefer a natural patina from age.  While some of the previous examples look nice they are the shoe equivalent of a trailer queen car.  I prefer the look of shoes that have some miles on them but still taken care of.  A few scars can add some character.

 

#53 2012-09-21 01:17:45

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

isshinryu101 wrote:

by the way, shooman... i love that green pair.  Wholecuts alone are boring, but add an Italian welt & some antiquing and VIOLA!!!

I'm confused. Why would green shoes inspire the need to start playing your violin?

Last edited by Sammy Ambrose (2012-09-21 01:18:15)


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#54 2012-09-21 08:50:03

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Sammy Ambrose wrote:

isshinryu101 wrote:

by the way, shooman... i love that green pair.  Wholecuts alone are boring, but add an Italian welt & some antiquing and VIOLA!!!

I'm confused. Why would green shoes inspire the need to start playing your violin?

LOL, i'll bite anyways. Properly spelled "Voila"  french for "here you go"

 

#55 2012-09-22 10:56:41

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

xenon1 wrote:

Sammy Ambrose wrote:

isshinryu101 wrote:

by the way, shooman... i love that green pair.  Wholecuts alone are boring, but add an Italian welt & some antiquing and VIOLA!!!

I'm confused. Why would green shoes inspire the need to start playing your violin?

LOL, i'll bite anyways. Properly spelled "Voila"  french for "here you go"

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#56 2012-10-09 23:21:24

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Alexander Nurulaeff worldclass shoo patina

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/AlexanderNurulaeffpatina1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/AlexanderNurulaeffpatina2.jpg


Ginza bespoke (Japan)
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/Clematis-GinzaJapanesebespokemaker1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/Clematis-GinzaJapanesebespokemaker2.jpg



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http://the-shoe-aristocat.blogspot.com. … shoes.html


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#57 2012-10-09 23:24:39

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The sole painter Ivan Crivellaropatina: the client isn't going to be wearing these shoes if they are paying Ivan to do this type of work. Probably just display shoes that he paints.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/IvanCrivellaropatina1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/IvanCrivellaropatina2.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/IvanCrivalleropatina1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/IvanCrivalleropatina2.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Ron2/Ron%204/Ron%205/Ron%206/IvanCrivalleropatina3.jpg



* from the blog above


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#58 2012-10-25 01:38:28

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

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#59 2012-10-25 02:48:14

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

I can't help it, but I find the more colourful and overpolished patinas looking as if they were made from bakelite.  I achieved the same effect on my Pewster Lobbs and am (i) afraid that the leather might crack and (ii) about to strip it again as I find it a little bit too artificial.

I like a deep glow on black shoes though.

 

#60 2012-10-25 02:49:37

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

By the way, the aforementioned effect is pictured in the lower half of this photo:

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/548_coat4_p3.jpg

 

#61 2012-10-25 07:37:47

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

HA!  great shoe shape, Shooey.  2 weeks ago I got those exact shoes in a vintage tan color...


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#62 2012-10-25 08:54:53

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

isshinryu101 wrote:

2 weeks ago I got those exact shoes in a vintage tan color...

you never cease to amaze me. You are well and truely a shooman of the highest order and you have earned your stripes the hard way, through experience. There is no bullshit and fancy regurgitated theories in you old boy, it's straight down the line with you. Many folks can bullshit their way with fancy talk on the forums and baffle brains, but with you and me...we are straight down the line and tell it how it is.

Love ya man.


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#63 2012-10-25 08:59:18

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

When people start getting ego and think they know it all, that's when they get dumbed down with bullshit....that's when they don't know what they are talking about. No ego with us two blokes because we say it how it is. We don't try impressing people, we make the careful observations and tell it how it is.

l'll get back to Albert tomorrow hopefully.


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#64 2012-10-26 07:38:55

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

isshinryu101 wrote:

2 weeks ago I got those exact shoes in a vintage tan color...

you never cease to amaze me. You are well and truely a shooman of the highest order and you have earned your stripes the hard way, through experience. There is no bullshit and fancy regurgitated theories in you old boy, it's straight down the line with you. Many folks can bullshit their way with fancy talk on the forums and baffle brains, but with you and me...we are straight down the line and tell it how it is.

Love ya man.

You and Meister got me started, so I thank/ curse you simultaneously!


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#65 2012-10-26 08:03:09

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Albert wrote:

By the way, the aforementioned effect is pictured in the lower half of this photo:

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/548_coat4_p3.jpg

Nice Lobbs. Are you abit of a shooman?

l've always wanted a pair of gemmed Lobbs to add to the collection but unfortunately i've never even seen a pair in the flesh.     sad

l've done 8 hours patina jobs using wax and polish and got great results, but after a few wears the finish is gone. Such a waste of time.


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#66 2012-10-26 08:07:39

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

isshinryu101 wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

isshinryu101 wrote:


2 weeks ago I got those exact shoes in a vintage tan color...

you never cease to amaze me. You are well and truely a shooman of the highest order and you have earned your stripes the hard way, through experience. There is no bullshit and fancy regurgitated theories in you old boy, it's straight down the line with you. Many folks can bullshit their way with fancy talk on the forums and baffle brains, but with you and me...we are straight down the line and tell it how it is.

Love ya man.

You and Meister got me started, so I thank/ curse you simultaneously!

Yeah, Meister is abit of a sicko when it comes to shoos. He never knoqs when to quit, he just buys `em and buys `em and buys `em, specially those spade soles.

l started you off and Meister well and truely finished the job. l am sooo glad we made a proper shooman of you to carry things on. Now it's up to you to train up and coming shoomen too. You don't know how happy you make me when l see your shoo addiction. Shoos are the only drug we need, so keep it up mate and get those kids into it too, especially the young fellas.


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#67 2012-10-26 08:16:42

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

Albert wrote:

By the way, the aforementioned effect is pictured in the lower half of this photo:

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/548_coat4_p3.jpg

Nice Lobbs. Are you abit of a shooman?

l've always wanted a pair of gemmed Lobbs to add to the collection but unfortunately i've never even seen a pair in the flesh.     sad

l've done 8 hours patina jobs using wax and polish and got great results, but after a few wears the finish is gone. Such a waste of time.

Thank you!  That's a great compliment. smile  I have two pairs of this pattern (not sure what the right name is --- wouldn't call it a wholecut but not an oxford either), one in Pewster (pictured) and one in black.  I live in London, so I once managed to get out to their factory shop in Northampton when prices there were still affordable (225 per pair -- those were the days).

I love shoes, but most I have are C&J or Barkers / Loakes (bought them when I was around 20 at a shoe shop in Germany --- did a good job since then).  So I'm a little-little shoeboy at best.  And I don't know anything about construction, other than that it involves leather and some sort of mysterious stitching.

Here is how I do the patina:  (i) Renovateur; (ii) Cream; (iii) layers of polish in the colour of the shoe (relatively thick layers, repeatedly polished off) -- polished with a nylon cleaning towel; (iv) layers of neutral polish, again polished off with the nylon towel.  Takes a few days as I always let the wax dry completely before polishing.  The shine can be quite good, but what bugs me is what happens to the creases (they take on lighter colour once you wear the shoes).

Do we have a shoe pornography thread somewhere?  Happy to contribute when my insomnia strikes again...

 

#68 2012-10-26 08:17:00

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

Shoos are the only drug we need, so keep it up mate and get those kids into it too, especially the young fellas.

DONE & DONE!!!

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http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/Isshinryu101/Mine/IMG_0913.jpg


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#69 2013-04-27 09:19:07

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Berluti:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron%207/Berlutiantique1_zps7d9f7cb3.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron%207/Berlutiantique2_zps84aa5b22.jpg

Unknown makes:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron%207/Antiqueshoo1_zpsb271348a.png

And just a treat thrown in for stitching freaks - for blokes who like heavily stitched footwear. Bettanin & Venturi. Must be great owning such a pair.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron%207/BettaninampVenturishoo1_zpsaf380410.jpg


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#70 2013-04-27 10:05:52

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

Very eye catching Berluti's. Maybe too eye-catching.

The shoes at the bottom are hideous.


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#71 2013-04-27 21:37:36

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

formby wrote:

The shoes at the bottom are hideous.

l'd wear them strictly on weekends. They would be amazing to wear....wanted to own such a pair for many years. If l had my way i'd have ten pair in my cupboard.

Dainty elegant English shoos (Formby shoos) = 100%
BIG F-A-T bastards with BIG W-I-D-E welts and thick stitching = 100%


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#72 2013-04-28 05:21:56

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

formby wrote:

The shoes at the bottom are hideous.

l'd wear them strictly on weekends. They would be amazing to wear....wanted to own such a pair for many years. If l had my way i'd have ten pair in my cupboard.

Dainty elegant English shoos (Formby shoos) = 100%
BIG F-A-T bastards with BIG W-I-D-E welts and thick stitching = 100%

I don't mind the shoe's upper, even though I wouldn't pick a style like that meself, its the sole and the stitching. Hideous.

My taste in shoes is very dry, I know. The more the design of a shoe resembles a boot aesthetically the more I like it. An Adelaide is as far as I'll personally venture, patternwise.


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#73 2013-04-29 08:57:16

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

formby wrote:

I don't mind the shoe's upper, even though I wouldn't pick a style like that meself, its the sole and the stitching. Hideous.

l completely understand. l used to HATE that heavy stitching myself until about 12 years ago. l could have got plenty of Santoni Norvegese with monster welts and stitching like those above, but l liked more refined shoos at the time, and now l kick myself for being such a dill. l could have had 20 pairs of those BIG bastards with thick rope stitching and HUGE welts, but l was a silly bugger and bought lesser stuff. l used to see the Santoni for $1,200 and couldn't work out why blokes were paying so much for such ugly rope stitched shoos (in the 90's), but now l see why blokes are buying those BIG bastards...it's because they rule and rock.

formby wrote:

My taste in shoes is very dry, I know. The more the design of a shoe resembles a boot aesthetically the more I like it. An Adelaide is as far as I'll personally venture, patternwise.

lt's a good way to be. l used to be even drier than you as a young bloke. l like the plain shoos perhaps the best, but truely though, l like `em all mate!...been thinking about Edward Green all evening and i'm freakin' pumped up about it mate...special orders, top draws...they are nice looking shoes and l wouldn't mind a few more pair, an Adelaide style (southwold) in burgundy antique Top Draw model and also some wholecuts. Now you know why l am pumped up, these dreams can be realities so the thoughts are very exciting to have and can keep one awake at night thinking of the possibilities of designing their own shoe, it should put knots in your stomach and almost make you feel ill. + l have been dreaming about owning both black oxford captoes by John Lobb, Edward Green, Anthony Cleverley and George Cleverley bespoke, but should l buy so many?? l reckon l should buy them because l deserve all the good captoe oxfords on the aussie market and it is my ideal dream shoe and always has been since l was a kid..../been dreaming of the John Lobb `city' captoe all day mate, but then again l think about that shoe often.

l could quite happily wear black oxford captoes (the `father of businessman's shoos' for many parts of the world) everyday for the rest of my life. If l only had one style to chose from, that would be it.


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#75 2013-04-29 15:06:18

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Re: Eye-catching shoo patinas done to worldclass levels!

The_Shooman wrote:

formby wrote:

The shoes at the bottom are hideous.

l'd wear them strictly on weekends. They would be amazing to wear....wanted to own such a pair for many years. If l had my way i'd have ten pair in my cupboard.

Dainty elegant English shoos (Formby shoos) = 100%
BIG F-A-T bastards with BIG W-I-D-E welts and thick stitching = 100%

LOVE 'em!

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/Isshinryu101/Mine/IMG_8568.jpg

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab111/Isshinryu101/Mine/IMG_8574.jpg

Yes, F-A-T Bastards!  Well said, Shooey.


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