Ball Caps - I believe we have exported this outside the U.S. as well.
Shirts that make one look like the Michelin man.
Suits worn with shoes and no socks.
2" and greater cuffs / turnups
Really tight trousers that make men look like chicks.

Film Noir Buff wrote:

Bishop of Briggs wrote:

Mine are

Hoodies
Football shirts
Fleeces
Polyester and nylon jackets, e.g. brands found in Millets such North Face and Berghaus
Trainers/sneakers

What are yours?

You left out colorful, abstract ties.

For the Bishop I think that just falls into the category of severely "dislike."

Hoodies and Duchamp Ties - not in the same league.

Bishop of Briggs wrote:

g- wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

You left out colorful, abstract ties.

For the Bishop I think that just falls into the category of severely "dislike."

Hoodies and Duchamp Ties - not in the same league.

Not even that. Personal taste is subjective but one should be frank and honest on such matters. The alternative is group think such as the emperor who had no clothes. My local department store is discounting Duchamp ties substantially...

Really, how much are they at?

g- wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

Bishop of Briggs wrote:

Not even that. Personal taste is subjective but one should be frank and honest on such matters. The alternative is group think such as the emperor who had no clothes. My local department store is discounting Duchamp ties substantially...

Really, how much are they at?

I thought the Bishop should buy you a few as a Christmas gift.  It would be great if he sent them with a note from Simon Crompton.  LOL

I should have all my UK buddies doing shopping for me.

For Business:

when men wear and worship dull ties because they think it elevates them to a social station they do not and will never have.

Shoes for business that do not lace up in the standard fashion.

With some summer exceptions, shoes that are much lighter than the suit for business.

Cheesy shirts for business. One of the surest sign that you are dealing with a slippery personality.

Low contrast between the suit/shirt/tie

For casual:

Obvious label/designer gear

Outfits that are straight out of a fashion show or magazine

Men who wear those Charlie Sheen bowling shirts because they have a distinct "Dateline" vibe about them.

Monk strap shoes.
BD collar shirts unbuttoned.
Sack jackets.
Kipper ties.
Winsor knotted ties.
Cargo trews.
Tracksuits.
Collars turned up on Polo shirts (unless worn on a cricket pitch).
Earings on men.
Goths & Hippies.

Film Noir Buff wrote:

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For Business:

when men wear and worship dull ties because they think it elevates them to a social station they do not and will never have.

Is that your US experience?

In Britain, tie choice tends to reflect the culture of the sector and business. Bright ties are more likely to be found in the media and marketing. UBS published a conservative dress code for its new employees.

Some insecure men are frightened to outshine their boss as it could affect their promotion prospects. Others simply wear what their wives buy them as birthday and Christmas presents.

It is very entertaining to watch women pick shirts and ties for their husbands and partners, especially in the sales. Mrs Bishop would not dare...

Kingstonian wrote:

Bishop of Briggs wrote:

Mine are

Hoodies
Football shirts
Fleeces
Polyester and nylon jackets, e.g. brands found in Millets such North Face and Berghaus
Trainers/sneakers

What are yours?

Uniqlo used to sell good reversible fleeces - in larger sizes too. I also have a Berghaus fleece though I am not sure it is better than cheaper versions. Good for Winter sports and never gets moth damage.

Most fleeces are terrible quality and look awful. I would sweat like a pig in most fleeces.

Mmmm..........these are more dislikes than hates. [Too] strong a word hate.

Bow-ties.
Suit jackets cut to short.
Suit jackets with their fronts cut too open.
Vent-less jackets. Don't mind centre vents in the right context i.e tweed hacking jacket.
Trousers cut too skinny and too short. Not keen on turnups either and defineatly not those bloody huge things that seem de rigeur amongst some of the Italian tailoring fans.
Ostentatious shoes. Count monk straps in amongst those. Dreadful looking shoe. Can't warm to suede for a dress shoes either, but don't dislike 'em either.
Ostentatious jewellery on men. NO...!!!
Sports wear unless one is either playing the sport or training (gym &c.)
Beany hats. Jesus H. Christ, men who wear beany hats inside....fuuuuucccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man bags. Satchels are for school boys.
Duffel coats. Train-spotting nerds or Jonathan Creek wannabes. You know who you are....!!!!
Over use of aftershave. Men should smell clean not like the inside of a Ukrainian hookers handbag.......er.....allegedly...!!!! Phew...!!!!
T-shirts with band logo's and similar. Fine on a young bloke. There's something dodgy though when you see a 40+ man waking around sporting his old The Smiths 'The Queen is Dead' T-shirt that he's clung onto from 6th form or worse the Superman logo. Grow the fuck up you twit. Now where's me old 'The Primitives' shirt...
There's surely others I can't think of..

Kingstonian wrote:

formby wrote:

Man bags. Satchels are for school boys.

Blokes in suits carrying laptops in backpacks. Just carry your kit.

Almost as bags are wheeled luggage bags for work stuff. Are you disabled?

I don't know how Londoners cope when using the underground with those idiots who get on the train whilst still wearing their back pack. Ignorant pricks. I nearly come to blows a few years back with one, a mouthy Kiwi.

Bishop of Briggs wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

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For Business:

when men wear and worship dull ties because they think it elevates them to a social station they do not and will never have.

Is that your US experience?

In Britain, tie choice tends to reflect the culture of the sector and business. Bright ties are more likely to be found in the media and marketing. UBS published a conservative dress code for its new employees.

Some insecure men are frightened to outshine their boss as it could affect their promotion prospects. Others simply wear what their wives buy them as birthday and Christmas presents.

It is very entertaining to watch women pick shirts and ties for their husbands and partners, especially in the sales. Mrs Bishop would not dare...

No, it's my forum experience.

Although I think most men who choose a tie of any sort, choose it in a vacuum, either based on it's intrinsic beauty or based on the values they think it represents irrespective of whether it would look optimally with what they wear. Thus, if a man believes a tie stands for old fashioned values (I am speaking in terms of involuntary thought not scienter) and he likes that idea, he snatches it up. If he thinks it's the sort of tie a "gentleman" wears, he does the same. The impulses are very real to the observer, the problem is, what's his reference? If you never  grew up around the sort of people you are trying to emulate, how good will your reflex for selecting ties be? As you can see on the other forums, many of the posters in love with conservative ties seem to do so for a "lifestyle" they think it represents which they would like to attain. Fantasies like that are not rare, nor are they unhealthy but when reinvented as sartorial expertise, well, that is a problem.

It's different in England because most of the people seem to understand the class system and you can rely on working class designers to thoroughly understand upper middle class tastes.

I dont wear one sort of tie, I wear everything from small spots and geometrics to those Van Buck Limited edition ties. Americans are not as fussed about pattern as they are about color. Some days I want to wear a bengal striped shirt and a geometric tie and sometimes I want to wear a more Harvie and Hudson shirt with a Duchamp tie.

I also hate that too short jacket ala Thom Browne, looks like a woman's blazer.

Kingstonian wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

Although I think most men who choose a tie of any sort, choose it in a vacuum, either based on it's intrinsic beauty or based on the values they think it represents irrespective of whether it would look optimally with what they wear. Thus, if a man believes a tie stands for old fashioned values (I am speaking in terms of involuntary thought not scienter) and he likes that idea, he snatches it up. If he thinks it's the sort of tie a "gentleman" wears, he does the same. The impulses are very real to the observer, the problem is, what's his reference? If you never  grew up around the sort of people you are trying to emulate, how good will your reflex for selecting ties be? As you can see on the other forums, many of the posters in love with conservative ties seem to do so for a "lifestyle" they think it represents which they would like to attain. Fantasies like that are not rare, nor are they unhealthy but when reinvented as sartorial expertise, well, that is a problem.

It's different in England because most of the people seem to understand the class system and you can rely on working class designers to thoroughly understand upper middle class tastes.

I dont wear one sort of tie, I wear everything from small spots and geometrics to those Van Buck Limited edition ties. Americans are not as fussed about pattern as they are about color. Some days I want to wear a bengal striped shirt and a geometric tie and sometimes I want to wear a more Harvie and Hudson shirt with a Duchamp tie.

American tie choice seems to be severely restricted, Repp ties or particular patterns only - too boring.

I really hate ties with gundogs or pheasants on them. Usually displayed with tattersall shirts in the sort of shop that sells country clothing. It does not get much worse.

I dislike tattersall shirts and ties with animals/birds too - very cliched. I wear plain shirts and knitted/wool ties with tweed jackets.

Some odd dislikes here:  bow ties? centre vents? Really?

Mine are fairly run of the mill: nasty pointy shoes with no visible soles that curl up at the end (ubiquitous in the high street at the moment), gaudy shirts with high collars and two collar buttons (becoming rarer, thank God), watches so fat that the idiot wearers can't get their sleeves over them.