Axelist wrote:

Harpo wrote:

Yes, they really do look like wankers don't they! Did they take their name from eminent political philosopher and anti-totalitarian Karl Popper?

Karl was not involved. It's  from "Pop".

Yes, it was definitely nothing to with Karl. They prefered all sorts of modern pop music (ideally with synthesizers and an electronic dance beat) to loud electric guitars and Heavy Metal or Hard Rock....

probably a reaction against the other German youth cult, die rocker, which was the big thing a few years before. Die Rocker were some kind of mix between the British "rockers"/ "ton up boys" youth cult of the late 50s, early 60s, and the American thing, these "outlaw Motor Cycle clubs" a la Hell's Angels, maybe with a bit of Marlon Brando in the Wild One, Hippie bikers a la Easy Rider and gay biker looks a la Judas Priest, all in the mix.... In general they scruffy, lots of leather and worn denim, big boots, pointy, Cowboy boots or biker boots, long hair....

Die Popper/ The Poppers were very neat and had the latest fashion. If hair was long only in the front, no mullets. They would wear a mix of preppy (polo shirts and bds, boat shoes, loafers etc...) BCBG, Italian fashion (Fiorucci) and some traditional British stuff, like bright red or maize pleated wide wale cords or Cavalry twill pants and Barbour jackets...  and everything with a label that says expensive....

not much to do with Ivy....

I think it's interesting that they don't even mention that it does not have what we call "Abnäher" (darts)...

Tony Ventresca wrote:

From our discussions here we know that the "Ivy League look" of the 1950s and 1960s was a mass style.

However, I ran across an interesting reference that illustrates how widespread it actually was: in Engel's book The 24-Hour Dress Code For Men (link), originally a German publication, there is reproduced on page 24 an advertisement showing three men in sack suits. The ad is dated from the 1960s. The suits are clearly high-buttoning 3-button sacks. The accompanying text reads "WITT -- Qualitatsanzuge in erstklassigen paBform".

Sack suits in Germany in the 1960s?
It must be a mass style...

Ivy for everyone.

(By the way, I don't recommend the book to anyone. But if you see it in a bookstore, flip to page 24 and have a look at the ad.)

Old story....

Boom Years thread page 4....

So what's the story with Alden shoes in Germany? I've heard that they are or were pretty popular... in a non-Ivy context, I imagine?

http://theivyleaguelook.blogspot.de/201 … -1965.html




Not exactly Ivy in this short film but you can see the typical style of suits over here in the mid sixties:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYYOM0Y75WM

"Das kleine Chaos" is a new wave movie by Rainer Werner Fassbinder from 1966 about some young peddlers, very Godart...

Herzog on Ebert:

http://www.scpr.org/programs/offramp/20 … eath-of-r/