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Are you one of those c**nts that goes on the 'Tweed Run'?

annadale wrote:

Are you one of those c**nts that goes on the 'Tweed Run'?

ditto.

l loathe both gamesmanship and sportsmanship. l wish both of them would piss off forever and never come back! These two things (sportsmanship and gamesmanship) are instruments to control the non thinking masses and keep them in their place.

Sport is entertainment for the slaves. That's why the illuminati pay the sports stars so well, to keep the public dumbed down and out of the way. lt makes me sick how suckers fall for it generation after generation. Pthhh, pathetic!

The_Shooman wrote:

annadale wrote:

Are you one of those c**nts that goes on the 'Tweed Run'?

ditto.

l loathe both gamesmanship and sportsmanship. l wish both of them would piss off forever and never come back! These two things (sportsmanship and gamesmanship) are instruments to control the non thinking masses and keep them in their place.

Sport is entertainment for the slaves. That's why the illuminati pay the sports stars so well, to keep the public dumbed down and out of the way. lt makes me sick how suckers fall for it generation after generation. Pthhh, pathetic!

I think, if anything, gamesmanship subverts sportsmanship...

As for sport as a means of social control, it's a very good theory. Sports at school were to exhaust us all so much that we would be too tired to bum each other later that night... It didn't always work as all that running around just revved certain people up instead. Cold showers didn't work either as it just gave boys a real appreciation of warmth and luxury wherever they could get it.

Sports are the great distractor, aren't they? Rather like Royal Weddings & all of that. Keep people's attention elsewhere...

A rather clever game to play with the proles. And I'm all for playing games.

Jimmy Frost Mellor wrote:

The_Shooman wrote:

annadale wrote:

Are you one of those c**nts that goes on the 'Tweed Run'?

ditto.

l loathe both gamesmanship and sportsmanship. l wish both of them would piss off forever and never come back! These two things (sportsmanship and gamesmanship) are instruments to control the non thinking masses and keep them in their place.

Sport is entertainment for the slaves. That's why the illuminati pay the sports stars so well, to keep the public dumbed down and out of the way. lt makes me sick how suckers fall for it generation after generation. Pthhh, pathetic!

I think, if anything, gamesmanship subverts sportsmanship...

As for sport as a means of social control, it's a very good theory. Sports at school were to exhaust us all so much that we would be too tired to bum each other later that night... It didn't always work as all that running around just revved certain people up instead. Cold showers didn't work either as it just gave boys a real appreciation of warmth and luxury wherever they could get it.

Sports are the great distractor, aren't they? Rather like Royal Weddings & all of that. Keep people's attention elsewhere...

A rather clever game to play with the proles. And I'm all for playing games.

My school was a big sports orientated school with a 150 year tradition in such nonsense, but l was one of the only kids in history who refused to engage in such nonsense and would tell them so. l refused to wear sneakers and a tracksuit and refused to do sport, so they let me blow my horn in the bandroom instead and play music all arvo blowing my brains out while all the silly buggers played sport for 3.5 hours straight each week. l would stick my head out the window of the bandroom and yell out "SUCKERS!!!" [as l stuck my finger up at everyone] and then toot my horn at them.

Be honest - Was it the bad shoes that really put you off, Mate ?

yeah mate, it was. Not only are sneakers bad shoos, but they are bloody foul shoos (nothing fouler ever invented). l hate sneakers with a passion; they are white wiff fancy girly-man colours all over them, are made from synthetics, and have thick ugly rubber soles that get dirt in the traction on the soles. l wore sneakers occasonally, but l hated every moment of it as a kid; l always liked wearing proper shoos. Even when l was in primary school (age 6 - 12), l usually wore school shoos during sport.

So many girly-men on t.v wearing white beacons wiff fancy colours on their feet. lt's ridiculous!!!

But as l said....grown men running from one side of an oval to the other side chasing after a silly ball is really silly too. These blokes need to find something better to do. And to think that some dope pays these blokes lots of money to chase a ball simply staggers me at the stupidity of the world. lf l run the world l would tell these silly buggers to get a real job, l wouldn't pay them a cent. lf they want to run after a silly ball, do it after work in their own time...they can run after the stupid ball all night long down the local paddock for whatever l care, just don't get suckers watching and paying them for doing such baloney.

annadale wrote:

Are you one of those c**nts that goes on the 'Tweed Run'?

Real lovers of tweed don't go on the Tweed Run. It's a dressing up event for sad losers like those who read "The Chap".

'Playing the game' IS what it's all about. It's a game. It's not serious. The rules are only guidelines. Sport has a different point of view on all of this.

The game is to be played, played well and won, with luck.

Sport has no room for audacity or cheek. Sport is a serious business. Sport is a profession and not a pastime.

I'm all for Gamesmanship & think that we have lost a lot by valuing the later notion of Sportsmanship more.

One plays games quite literally. Sport is also 'played', but they're not really playing are they? They are deadly serious - And over what ?

The winning of games and the winning of wars are very closely linked. The point is to win.
Vietnam was a great example of an army being totally unable to cope with an opposing force who just cheekily popped up out of holes in the ground and shot them in the head. Most unsporting of them.  Hadn't they read the rule book ?

Cynicism or realism ?

The gamesman is goal orientated & the sportsman is process orientated. I think that sums it up best.

formby wrote:

Sportsmanship is sooooooooooo middle-class....!!!

You can plot the downfall of the British Empire from the ascendancy of sportsmanship over gamesmanship.

The downfall of the British Empire - like many others - was overextending itself and being crippled by military expenditure and costly wars. See Kennedy  'The Rise and Fall of The Great Powers'.

'Middle class' captures many of the inventors and entrepreneurs who sparked  the Industrial Revolution.  Some of them fell victim to social climbing and trying to ape the aristocracy.

Kingston1an wrote:

This thread is as much about cynicism as sports or gamesmanship.

No reference to the activities themselves or the satisfaction in doing them well or watching them being done well.

I see no merit in breaking the rules or getting away with cheating.

Yes sport- along with other things - is used as a distraction but that is a separate issue.

Flashman,Joey Barton and Jardine versus Sir Henry Newbolt, the Duke of Wellington and muscular Christianity

There's a breathless hush in the Close to-night --
Ten to make and the match to win --
A bumping pitch and a blinding light,
An hour to play and the last man in.
And it's not for the sake of a ribboned coat,
Or the selfish hope of a season's fame,
But his Captain's hand on his shoulder smote
"Play up! play up! and play the game!"

The sand of the desert is sodden red, --
Red with the wreck of a square that broke; --
The Gatling's jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed his banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of schoolboy rallies the ranks,
"Play up! play up! and play the game!"

This is the word that year by year
While in her place the School is set
Every one of her sons must hear,
And none that hears it dare forget.
This they all with a joyful mind
Bear through life like a torch in flame,
And falling fling to the host behind --
"Play up! play up! and play the game!"

One of my favorite propaganda poems as it happens, but....you can't compare the random destruction of modern war, where luck is more important in surviving an artillery barrage than any skill learnt on the rugger fields at Eton. The same goes for explosive devices placed on roads in Afghanistan.

War is not sport or gamesmanship, its a different kind of horror and no skills from your previous life will help you survive an artillery barrage or a tour of duty in Helmond province and when its over, there's absolutely no skills from surviving it that you can transfer readily to your civilian life.

Last edited by 4F Hepcat (2012-06-02 13:14:15)

This thread made me think of the notorious Maradona "hand of God" goal. What's the difference between gamesmanship and cheating?