Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.
formby wrote:
Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.
Maybe; though, there's also a good case to suggest that they each play too much footie and do not give enough eye to their national economies! Mind you, none rejoices more in the dissolution of the doomed and damned EU than I do!
Come on Rooney! Sell lessons to the Eyetalians on how to fall over your own two left feet! The fragrant Lady Coleen - EEH Urp! - could even be there to cheer you on in her Burberry Everything. Snide? Sceptical?
It's all going to the dawgs.
formby wrote:
Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.
Hype in my opinion.
formby wrote:
Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.
Best European team ever, perhaps. ![]()
Kingston1an wrote:
formby wrote:
Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.Hype in my opinion.
Hype? They're backing it up.
eg wrote:
formby wrote:
Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.Best European team ever, perhaps.
Well.
If they they win the next world cup, there'll be no argument.
formby wrote:
eg wrote:
formby wrote:
Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.Best European team ever, perhaps.
Well.
If they they win the next world cup, there'll be no argument.
Some guy in one of the local rags bagged on about how this Spain squad are not the best ever (citing the 58-70 period when Brazil won 3/4 World Cups) -- I mean, I am old, but not even I am THAT old! ![]()
eg wrote:
formby wrote:
eg wrote:
Best European team ever, perhaps.Well.
If they they win the next world cup, there'll be no argument.Some guy in one of the local rags bagged on about how this Spain squad are not the best ever (citing the 58-70 period when Brazil won 3/4 World Cups) -- I mean, I am old, but not even I am THAT old!
Well, I'm not sure they remained the same team over the 12 year period. The Spain team hasn't changed that much.
Modern cup competitions also require a team to play more games to reach the final due to expansion.
You could also argue that the Euro's are harder to win than the World Cup, you have a greater concentration of the best teams. Outside Europe you only have 2 really good teams. Brazil and Argentina.
Again, if they win in Brazil in 2014 and the team squad pretty much stays the same, I think it will be beyond doubt.
formby wrote:
Kingston1an wrote:
formby wrote:
Well
Italy looked dead on their feet and it looks like Spain saved their best for last.
Poor Italy! Well done Spain
best team ever?
There's a good case.Hype in my opinion.
Hype? They're backing it up.
One minute they are too boring the next they are the best ever.
Other contenders:-
Magnificent Magyars who thrashed England in the 1950s?
Late 1950s Real Madrid with Puskas and di Stefano? They had a really long run.
1970s Brazil?
Cruyff's Holland?
Kingston1an wrote:
formby wrote:
Kingston1an wrote:
Hype in my opinion.
Hype? They're backing it up.
One minute they are too boring the next they are the best ever.
Other contenders:-
Magnificent Magyars who thrashed England in the 1950s?
Late 1950s Real Madrid with Puskas and di Stefano? They had a really long run.
1970s Brazil?
Cruyff's Holland?
Hungary never won anything. Ditto Holland.
Real Madrid didn't play at the same level. Good candidate for best ever club team though.
1970 Brazil team, good but couldn't sustain it into '74. Embarrassed by Holland as I recall.
Spain play with a metronomic quality, which could be construed as boring I suppose, but its supremely effective as is demonstrated by the results. No team would have touched them on Sunday, including the South Americans.
Again, if they win again in 2014, again a win on foreign soil, again if the squad remains pretty much intact and it being their 4th successive success in a major competition, I can't see how anyone can deny them that accolade.
Playing attractive attacking football is one thing, but greatness in sport, as in many other things is measured by success!
^ Success is not enough. You need to entertain. You need a Cruyff, Pele, di Stefano,Maradonna ....
Consecutive wins does not automatically merit a 'best ever' accolade in my book.
Tour de France? I don't really follow it and could not understand why they kept mentioning that Sky were pulling the shots and telling riders to slow down.
That Bradley Wiggins is no weight at all - 6ft 3 but under 11 stone! More or less a pair of lungs on legs.
Delighted that the Scottish Football League's clubs voted that Sevco, trading as Glasgow Rangers, should play in the third division next season. I still fear that the Scottish Football Association, Scottish Premier League and Sky will try to stitch up a new deal for the Huns to play the SPL.
^ Well that could affect revenue streams for other top Scottish clubs as well.
However, a long term drop in revenues might mean a clear out of expensive foreign imports. This could help nurture home grown talent.
Pull down to rebuild.
All of the Lisbon Lions were born within 30 miles of Glasgow.
Kingston1an wrote:
^ Well that could affect revenue streams for other top Scottish clubs as well.
However, a long term drop in revenues might mean a clear out of expensive foreign imports. This could help nurture home grown talent.
Pull down to rebuild.
All of the Lisbon Lions were born within 30 miles of Glasgow.
Several media experts believe that the tv contracts were sold too cheaply. With BT and other players in the market, revenues could increase if Sky pulls out.
BTW, a couple of the Lisbon Lions played at my old golf club. I played with them and their sons.
AUSTRALIAN Olympic athletes and officials were taken on a three-hour "Monopoly tour" of London after a bus chartered by Games organisers, with a lost driver behind the wheel, took three hours to travel from Heathrow airport to the Olympic village.
Beijing gold medallist Elise Rechichi was among the contingent of Australian sailors on the vehicle that was two hours late to collect the party, then drove around for hours on what should have been a 45-minute trip, before the driver admitted the East London Games village had not been entered into the GPS navigation system.
We were in the Olympic lane and we were going places, we just weren't going where we were supposed to go.
Australian Olympic Committee media liaison officer Damian Kelly, who was also with the group of around 30 athletes, medical staff and team officials that had arrived in London on flights from Melbourne and Sydney, described the bewildering journey that extended an already long trip.
"The driver just said 'I'm sorry, I'm lost, it's my first day on the job and I'm lost," Kelly told Fairfax.
"We were moving, we were in the Olympic lane and we were going places, we just weren't going where we were supposed to go.
"He just said it was his first day in that bus and they hadn't told them how the GPSs worked and that he didn't know how to use it and apparently the Olympic Village hadn't been loaded into the GPS.
"We'd all been travelling for over 20 hours so it's not the best way to finish a long trip.. it was not ideal."
An American party of athletes and officials had a similar experience, though their trip to the Olympic village took four hours, and prompted two-time world 400 metres hurdle champion Kerron Clement to tweet: "Um, so we've been lost on the road for 4 hrs. Not a good first impression London.
"Athletes are sleepy, hungry and need to pee. Could we get to the Olympic Village please."
Kelly, who has been a media attache at two summer Olympics and one Winter Games, said the Australian group had taken the extended detour in good humour.
"Everyone was having a few jokes and we saw some great sights," he said.
"We eventually got there but we did lots of backtracking and going around streets we'd been down before and all that sort of stuff, but we eventually got there.
"We saw Buckingham Palace and the Tower Bridge and a few other things, I presume we were supposed to see them anyway but I'm not really sure. Someone on the bus described it as the Monopoly tour."
The Open is on BBC from 9 in the morning. Handy if you are 'working from home'.
Royal Lytham St Annes. You can see the funfair at Blackpool in the distance - but not the sea, though it is not far away.
Tiger going well.
Wow! Cannot believe Scott let it slip away in the last few holes.
He looked so steady and nobody was doing much in the chasing pack. I thought it might be a procession;, but Scott did not even get a play off out of it.
Not as bad as Greg Norman and Faldo, or Jean van de Velt and Paul Lawrie but a big downer for the Australian nonetheless.
Citeh score in Madrid. They looked overawed in the first half. Yaya Toure is very impressive a big unit to find bearing down on you at pace.
No word on here about Andy Murray - a major and a gold medal. Last Brit to win a major played in long trousers.
Sports personality of the year will be closely contested this year. Will not be a footballer though.
Citeh go into the lead for a second time. Mourinho wont be happy.
Short lived Real score as I type.
Come on you can't hate on Ronaldo - his persistance paid off.
Chelsea cannot hold a lead and when Carrick in the guy doing your scoring you know it will be a boring game. So glad the CL is back in full swing.
Great comeback by Europe to win Ryder Cup.
Tiger had a final put to draw the event but failed to make it.