Longwings, but also the saddle oxford is worthy of a mention as a college survivalist from between the wars.
Longwings for me, Ian Strachan had an original pair of Ivy Royals at his Richmond Ivy Shop which were strictly not for sale.
All of the above feature in my lineup, except the wingtips. Not a big fan of regular wingtip shoes, but I love longwings.
Loving those smooth's and the split toes do intrigue me.
I am a Gunboat boy all the way but do have capped oxford's for formal stuff.
all of the styles pictured above except for the cap toes
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My favorite are the longwings. I would love some Alden shell longwings, but I'll wait 'til I graduate first. I don't have enough money right now in college. It's hard to find used ones in my size too. I really just started getting into classic ivy league clothes, so I'm still getting the basics. Right now the only dress shoe I have is some black cap toes, that are not that great, but they do the job. Otherwise I mainly wear Clark's desert boots, LL Bean camp mocs, or Vans sneakers. I dress very casually most of the time since I'm a student, but when I graduate, I'll definitely start wearing more classic ivy clothes. Although, since I'm in engineering, I'm not sure that many people dress up too much. I could always go with the short sleeve OCBD NASA look, but I'm not that much of a nerd.
Oh yeah I love that blog. That's one of the first blogs I found that got me into ivy style clothes. As well as OCBD's blog for sure. I wouldn't say I'm into the hardcore preppy look though. (I can't imagine myself ever wearing Nantucket red pants, but hey who knows?). I love the earthy autumn tones and colors, like brown, tan, olive, etc. I really need to get some tweed jackets and a flannel suit, because those look amazing to me. Casually, I usually find myself wearing plaid flannel shirts as well. I just like the classic American clothes a lot.
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Good for you Jivy, always nice to hear someone is keeping the look alive in college.
+1 on all that, but to be sure what you mean with "dress shoe" - a business shoe to be worn with a suit? Then the Blucher and the Oxfors of the original post are the most "Ivy" dress shoes (besides the loafers, but Weejuns for example aren't "dressy" - the "dressy" loafers are the Tassel loafers or the Alden type Pennyloafers)...
Longwings are the American version of country shoes - perfect for Tweed, Cord, etc. - not "dress shoes" but for sure shoes to be worn in winter with flannels (there they are also appropriate for business, bad weather etc.)...
Split toes are a bit of an exception: they really work well in all occasions...
I know this post will cause a bit of discussion but there is a reason why Longwings are not too often seen on old pics and in old movies of men in business attire (Oxfords, Bluchers etc. are very often seen. As well as Tassels..)
Longwings are absolutely fine with a suit, and were back then. If pebblegrain doesn't work burgundy cordovan or black (calf or cordo) certainly will. Maybe for a chairman of the board or similar captoes would be more suitable, but any less formal situation and they are fine with a suit.
They work all year round, however they are not ideally suited for bad weather.
Londwings are fine with flannels and tweed suits and can work with worsted. They were not appropriate for business back in the day though. Evidence please. Pics of business men with Longwings during the boom years.
Whats the reason they were inappropriate? I'm intrigued...............
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Ok, today you are appropriate when wearing a shirt instead of a T-Shirt... And Lee Marvin is wearing some kind of heavier suit, right? Do you have other pics? I knew that one :)
Isn't "dress" business attire??? I clearly said business attire. Even all the adverts suggest plain toe Bluchers or Derbys and most of the time you see those or Oxfords. No brown in town never was big in the US, but black was the preferred colour.
I knew that this would be a discussion and I knew who would start it ;)
Charlie, like in the UK and everywhere else country shoes were no dress shoes. (And Full Brogues are for sure country shoes...) That doesn't mean nobody wore it or that it wouldn't look good. Although Longwings and a worsted suit scream Thom Browne to me. It's just my opinion and historically correct. And for sure Longwings are Ivy... But Oxfords and split toes are at least as Ivy, too :)
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