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#126 2015-11-04 06:26:28
- rmpmcdermott
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
To be, or not to be; that is the bare bodkin. - Mark Twain
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#129 2015-11-11 20:32:52
- Oliver
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
Do you have an exact date on that ad, Dave?
Late-30's is mind blowingly cool, if in fact. I would've pegged it a decade later judging from the drape on that cat on the left, which looks more akin to what you might expect from the forties to fifties transition. Eitherway, it's a testament to the timelessness of the look, so effortlessly cool!
#130 2015-11-12 01:35:07
- Yuca
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
It's from Esquire sometime between 36 and 39, and I too would love to wear the entire outfit.
http://www.ivy-style.com/connoisseurs-say-theyre-in-style-the-bass-weejun-in-the-late-30s.html
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some sort of banal legitimacy
#131 2015-11-12 01:39:11
#132 2015-11-12 01:45:30
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
I strongly suspect that at the time such outfits could only be worn by students - on anyone else they would have been considered too youthful, frivolous etc. Which ties in with Holden in Sabrina (1954), who as I recall was not a student but was dedicated to a playboy lifestyle. Also in A Streetcar Named Desire from 51 there is a brief appearance from a student character, who is wearing a 3/2 sack jacket and some other ivy kit I can't recall (repp or knit tie I think).
some sort of banal legitimacy
#133 2015-11-15 08:53:59
- carpu65
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
In 1954 absolutley not.
The Ivy trend was already started.
And in early 50s Ivy sack suits were already linked by Madison Avenue executives.
#134 2015-11-15 11:19:00
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
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#138 2015-11-20 12:57:06
- Yuca
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
Definitely. The bow tie is not my bag but the rest is superb.
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#139 2015-11-20 13:46:19
- Leer R.
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
Thw bow tie doesn't go well with the brown loafers... And the Western belt puts me off. Other than that it is great...
#140 2015-11-20 15:37:41
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
Finicky finicky. That guy on the left is where it's at.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#141 2015-11-20 15:53:49
- Tommy
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
That kinda looks like yourself and Oli, maybe with Harpo with the bird on his arm?
#142 2015-11-20 16:26:45
- Worried Man
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
He's got a new one every week. Tosses em out like rubbish.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#143 2015-11-20 18:26:57
- stanshall
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"
#144 2015-11-21 09:49:45
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
Haha. Yeah, what can I say....
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
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#146 2015-12-11 08:32:15
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
/\ ... "college-born fashions ...."
Love it, haha .... you wonder what is so hard to understand about it ....
.... that working men would be thought frivolous if they showed up at their jobs wearing sweaters, mufflers, sport coats with odd trousers, saddle shoes, penny loafers, flat caps, newsboys
.... luckily for us the students were given lots of leeway to dress the way they wanted
Ivy by the students and for the students, the rest of the country wore suits or workwear
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"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"
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#148 2015-12-11 17:01:22
- Oliver
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
^ Fantastic! I love seeing examples of vintage marketing for the pre-"golden years" stuff!
Anyone have the skinny on the flapped chest pocket; was it an English detail in origin? I know technically it was all British import, but it's a detail that didn't appear often. I've had a couple of sack cut sport coats in the past that have featured it and I've always been curious. It strikes me as being very English provincial. I've only ever seen it on tweeds and corduroy.
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#150 2016-01-21 15:25:31
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Re: Ivy 1947-1954
Yeah. That's good stuff. Too bad that guy is just a figment of an illustrator's imagination and didn't actually exist.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955