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#26 2017-04-21 05:04:59

Chipper
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Re: Ivy Author photos

The Absintheist wrote:

Instead of some pics of John Cheever, here's an interesting link about him: http://www.ivy-style.com/the-john-cheev … nnial.html

I remember another post about Cheever and Updike, but it seems to have gone. Also funny to note how Cheever wrote mainly about the upper middle class, whereas Updike is mostly known for his series about an upper-working class man.

Two of my favorite authors. I never saw Updike as particularly preppy, trad, or Ivy, though. In fact, I read somewhere that his Harvard classmates thought he dressed "wonky." I'd have to agree. Cheever seemed more trad in a tweedy way to me. I actually sat a table away from Cheever a couple of times at downtown Iowa City diners when he was teaching in the workshop. Both times he was with some pretty young writing student, ostensibly discussing problems with her story. I remember feeling so awestruck that I was that close to the man -- I couldn't stop staring.

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#27 2017-04-21 13:26:13

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Re: Ivy Author photos

I think it was on the Ask Andy About Clothes American Trad Men thread where I saw a little discussion about Updike's style... the consensus there being that Updie tried a little too hard, or was too textbook an Ivy/trad dresser...

https://davehwilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/updike.jpg

He certainly never looks quite at home in his clothes the way others do... but I think he had the herringbone 3/2 sport coat pictured here for his whole life, it shows up in photos of him from the early 60s to the end of his life... doesn't get much more Trad than that!


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#28 2017-04-21 14:19:38

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Re: Ivy Author photos

/\  Updike also had a great way with emblematic ties he probably bought at J. Press, and with Shetland crewneck sweaters, and later he clowned around in a Boast polo shirt which was funny, not to mention his plaid madras summer pants ... definitive New England preppy style for decades, as you pointed out about his long-serving perfect tweed sport coat ....


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#29 2017-04-21 23:20:37

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Re: Ivy Author photos

From John Updike's personal effects archive -

http://928ou1qrl07rlu0w2sh2c8pq.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/TexMo_Updike_78994.jpg


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#30 2017-04-22 17:13:59

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Re: Ivy Author photos

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

From John Updike's personal effects archive -

http://928ou1qrl07rlu0w2sh2c8pq.wpengin … _78994.jpg

/\  nice find on the archives BB ... Updike's own A. J. Weberman ... now about that outfit pictured above: trying too hard?


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#31 2017-04-24 00:01:46

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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fd/1b/2f/fd1b2f8833f58182913d4b491420765d.jpg


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#32 2017-04-24 09:05:54

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Re: Ivy Author photos

stanshall wrote:

nice find on the archives BB ... Updike's own A. J. Weberman ... now about that outfit pictured above: trying too hard?

Well it isn't trying too little, that's for sure... Love the patina on those mocs though!


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#33 2017-04-24 16:42:00

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Re: Ivy Author photos

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

stanshall wrote:

nice find on the archives BB ... Updike's own A. J. Weberman ... now about that outfit pictured above: trying too hard?

Well it isn't trying too little, that's for sure... Love the patina on those mocs though!

agree ... L. L. Bean moccasins, that's what they're said to be  .... moccasins figure in more than one of Updike's stories

here he is in madras shorts, maybe even the pair you pictured, looking a little anxious:

https://vineyardgazette.com/sites/default/files/article-assets/main-photos/2009/ps_john_updike_1.jpg


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#34 2017-04-24 22:55:08

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Re: Ivy Author photos

Paris Review 1968:

A first view of Updike revealed a jauntiness of manner surprising in a writer of such craft and sensibility. After barreling down Edgartown’s narrow main street, the author appeared from his beat-up Corvair—a barefoot, tousle-haired young man dressed in khaki Bermudas and a sweatshirt.


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#35 2017-04-25 03:51:19

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Re: Ivy Author photos

stanshall wrote:

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

stanshall wrote:

nice find on the archives BB ... Updike's own A. J. Weberman ... now about that outfit pictured above: trying too hard?

Well it isn't trying too little, that's for sure... Love the patina on those mocs though!

agree ... L. L. Bean moccasins, that's what they're said to be  .... moccasins figure in more than one of Updike's stories

here he is in madras shorts, maybe even the pair you pictured, looking a little anxious:

https://vineyardgazette.com/sites/defau … dike_1.jpg

I thought that photo looked familiar, and sure enough, here he is looking a little bit less anxious in another pic from the same shoot, which turned up on the cover of this anthology...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/RareBookCellar/46/87939.jpg

 

#36 2017-04-25 04:21:14

Chipper
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Re: Ivy Author photos

Wonky, I tell you.


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#37 2017-04-25 07:35:35

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A little digging reveals the Corvair was a '65.

http://www.classic-car-history.com/classic%20chevy%20cars/corvair-pictures/1965-corvair-ad.jpg

But he also bought a Citroen DS in Europe and brought it back home... my personal dream car...

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/ds/images/ds-06g.jpg


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#38 2017-04-25 12:28:17

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Re: Ivy Author photos

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

A little digging reveals the Corvair was a '65.

http://www.classic-car-history.com/clas … air-ad.jpg

But he also bought a Citroen DS in Europe and brought it back home... my personal dream car...

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-c … ds-06g.jpg

love a Citroen SM, one of my friends used to have a white one, adjustable suspension and all ... this was in the mid-to-late '70s ......


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#39 2017-04-25 12:42:11

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Re: Ivy Author photos

Chipper wrote:

Wonky, I tell you.

he would agree, and consider it his best quality


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#40 2017-04-25 18:48:27

Chipper
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Re: Ivy Author photos

My dad bought one of the first Corvairs back in 1965. I think he did it against my mother's wishes, but back then, at least in my circles,
the man of the house made the vehicle decisions. Well, karma, as they say... he lived to regret it. That thing gave him no end of headaches.


Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

A little digging reveals the Corvair was a '65.

http://www.classic-car-history.com/clas … air-ad.jpg

But he also bought a Citroen DS in Europe and brought it back home... my personal dream car...

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-c … ds-06g.jpg

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#41 2017-04-25 18:55:14

Chipper
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Re: Ivy Author photos

Not a photo, exactly, but, hey... I read a lot of Norman Mailer when I was a kid. National Lampoon, also. This cover still kills me. (Huge comic book and Neal Adams fan, too.)

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18118438_10213013335593117_846246829295410476_n.jpg?oh=1fd15b9f3c93493d34ffe090fd2612d3&oe=598860D8

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#42 2017-08-02 05:45:10

stanshall
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Re: Ivy Author photos

http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/john-updike-3.jpg


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#43 2017-08-03 18:59:11

McGeorge Bundyburger
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Re: Ivy Author photos

Not strictly Ivy, but this is a picture of James Ellroy taken the time I met him, as rivetingly recounted in the "Unexpected Ivy in Literature" thread...

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/thumbs/9140_ellroy_image.jpg

 

#44 2017-08-03 22:48:35

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Re: Ivy Author photos

McGeorge Bundyburger wrote:

Not strictly Ivy, but this is a picture of James Ellroy taken the time I met him, as rivetingly recounted in the "Unexpected Ivy in Literature" thread...

http://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/uploads/ … _image.jpg

He cleans up nice, too. Or did, before his played-by-John Malkovich days.

https://pulpjournals.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/james-ellroy-with-his-dog-001.jpg


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