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#1 2017-05-19 15:56:20

woofboxer
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Church's Pembrey Loafer

English loafers generally fall short for me, they often seem to be a more refined shoe, like the Eton loafer, that lacks the knock-about quality of the American mocassin style with it's chunky sole and boxy rounded toe. So Church's is not a source that I would think of for penny loafers.

However I'm really taken with the look of these Pembrey loafers. The overall shape, the split toe and the pinking on the tongue are all just so right. I particular like the thick cap wrapping around the back of the heel. I don't know if I'm getting the terminology right here. They look really ...purposeful.

What does the team think?
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/woofboxer/IMG_1092_zpsu3xga9ho.jpg

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/woofboxer/IMG_1093_zps9bq9vpyh.jpg


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#2 2017-05-20 02:44:42

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

They look good above but not so much in this shot:

http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/_shop/imagelib/4/757/4455/church_pembrey_in_cognac_calf_1.jpg

For 330 quid there must be better options. I'd like to see them in action though.

Last edited by Yuca (2017-05-20 02:45:35)


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#3 2017-05-20 05:02:33

An Unseen Scene
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Split toe loafer.  Interesting.  Will swing by their shop and grab a quick look.

 

#4 2017-05-20 05:53:41

woofboxer
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Yuca wrote:

They look good above but not so much in this shot:

http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/_shop/ima … calf_1.jpg

For 330 quid there must be better options. I'd like to see them in action though.

What is it about them that you don't care for?

Too high at the front perhaps?

Here's another elevation.

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/woofboxer/church_pembrey_in_cognac_calf_2_zpsbug1rjqt.jpg


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#5 2017-05-20 06:39:26

Yuca
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

A bit too busy and a bit too clunky. Loafers are supposed to be light. I'm not totally opposed to them - they're passable. At that price I'd want more than passable.


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#6 2017-05-20 07:09:52

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Agree, bit clumpy for me. I much prefer the styling of the Crocket & Jones Boston which has more of that american feel.

https://www.crockettandjones.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/1000x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/o/boston-8363-19c-1.jpg


Though my favourite of theirs os the Harvard, very much in the style of the Alden, available in calfskin or the Alden priced Cordovan.

https://www.crockettandjones.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/1000x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/a/harvard-8365-h19-1.jpg


Similar price is the Cheaney Hudson

https://www.cheaney.co.uk/images/cheaney-hudson-penny-loafer-in-conker-calf-leather-p97-1671_zoom.jpg

Last edited by Tomiskinky (2017-05-20 07:12:44)


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#7 2017-05-20 08:14:51

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Not keen on beefroll. I have had them unravel in the past.

I will take 'refined' though even if it can be a bit Roger Moore. Berwick loafers from discount shoes in Strutton Ground. Round about the 100 mark. Look a bit like C & J - made in Spain.


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#8 2017-05-20 13:04:09

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

The C&J Boston/Harvard loafers are the same shoe, one is lined the other is not, can't remember which is which.

 

#9 2017-05-21 04:14:21

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

The Harvard is the unlined version, yes same last but subtle style differences.


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#10 2017-05-21 05:08:47

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

I had to check them out in flesh first, those Pembury are really ugly.
Way too much stitching involved all round, a fake stitched in 'beefroll' and the split toe looks like it was done by a blind cobbler.

If your going the 'split toe' loafer route and are spending 300+ , the JM Weston and Cheaney are much better options.


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#11 2017-05-21 17:21:14

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

The beefroll on the Church's is strange.


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#12 2017-05-21 18:31:14

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

woofboxer wrote:

English loafers generally fall short for me, they often seem to be a more refined shoe, like the Eton loafer, that lacks the knock-about quality of the American mocassin style with it's chunky sole and boxy rounded toe. So Church's is not a source that I would think of for penny loafers.

However I'm really taken with the look of these Pembrey loafers. The overall shape, the split toe and the pinking on the tongue are all just so right. I particular like the thick cap wrapping around the back of the heel. I don't know if I'm getting the terminology right here. They look really ...purposeful.

What does the team think?
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z40 … xga9ho.jpg

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z40 … q9vpyh.jpg

Only buy the "double brick house" Church's. These days there exist two types of Church's, the single brick house Church's made with less materials and cheaper materials and the double brick houses made with more materials and better materials.

Which house are these, single or double? Hard to say from the pics.

The real Church's ride is about the double brick house. That's what Church's is really about, the ride! It offers a ride that is totally unique and the reason why l value Church's so highly. It is a mid end shoo using mid end materials "BUILT" to higher end standards. This means that more materials are used in the area where it counts, ie, the arch area that allows the shoe to hold up better...the Edward Green and Johnny Lobb etc are all built the same way, but the C&J benchgrade aren't because they are a single brick house.

Woofy: buy a double brick house and enjoy the unique Church's ride.


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#13 2017-05-23 03:16:20

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Berwick 9628 (in burgundy though)

http://www.thetannery.co.uk/p/6837/Loafer-9628-Tan

Shooman, loafers are not gunboats.


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#14 2017-05-23 06:46:23

Leer R.
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

+1 on the C&J suggestions of Tom and Acton's suggestion on JM Weston...

btw, those Church's remind me mucho of the "Saxone" loafers you can easily find in Italy for less money...

here is a link, there they are expensive enough:

http://www.iliprandimilano.it/en/man-sh … alnut.html

https://image3.stileo.it/images/11717808/I520x490-saxone-of-mocassino-loafer-marrone-1407-23-dark-walnut-calf-www-tacchinistore-it-neri-pelle.jpg

I had those Saxone in my hands (I bet they really are similar to those Church's) and they have an American feel, they are a bit like 1950s loafers (think of James Dean) - but IMO they are too clunky. I love my Cole Haans at the moment and I would wear C&Js in a heartbeat. I thought about the Saxone but in the end... nope.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8c/6d/c2/8c6dc24838d0ea55f654ee8958381442.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/54/2a/de/542adecd8778d674cb17993dfefcc02c.jpg

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#15 2017-05-23 13:27:25

An Unseen Scene
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

I think of loafers as a decent looking beater shoe so not really looking to spend more than a couple of hundred on them and then Sebago, Bass, Florsheim do the job.

 

#16 2017-05-23 14:07:31

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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Acton_Baby wrote:

... Way too much stitching involved all round, a fake stitched in 'beefroll' and the split toe looks like it was done by a blind cobbler. ....

so much stitching = Jim Pembry Loafers ... those are Pembreys, now talk to them damn it!


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#17 2017-05-23 14:31:48

woofboxer
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

An Unseen Scene wrote:

I think of loafers as a decent looking beater shoe so not really looking to spend more than a couple of hundred on them and then Sebago, Bass, Florsheim do the job.

The brands you mention are the classic styles, trouble is their modern products are quite badly made. The last pair of Sebagos I had were so hard to break in that they only became comfortable when they were nearly falling apart. Money paid out on shoes = comfort/longevity and loafers are no exception IMO.


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#18 2017-05-24 09:18:02

An Unseen Scene
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Not has that issue with Sebago - still on same pairs five years on and look great even now.

 

#19 2017-06-17 21:07:44

ste
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

I saw two Sebago loafer models side-by-side in Tokyo and noticed quite a bit of difference between them, maybe a 50% or more difference in price.

 

#20 2017-06-18 05:51:48

An Unseen Scene
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Re: Church's Pembrey Loafer

Sebago have a number of ranges in the same style - handsewn, Cordovan etc

I am about five years in on two pairs of handsewn which are perfect apart needing new soles.

 

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