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#326 2017-08-03 03:33:50

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Babbling Brooks wrote:

No offence but that sounds like the type of music you'd get with one of those free Daily Mail CDs

None taken.


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#327 2017-08-03 16:47:52

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Wayne Shorter - Mahjong. Just ordered his Juju album, a reissue though, but I figured it seems pretty essential in my Blue Note collection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xZ7pq64K8

 

#328 2017-08-03 23:09:05

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

SanchoPanza wrote:

Wayne Shorter - Mahjong. Just ordered his Juju album, a reissue though, but I figured it seems pretty essential in my Blue Note collection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xZ7pq64K8

Awesome record... my off-the-cuff ranking of the classic Wayne Blue Notes:

Speak No Evil (Elvin on Dance Cadaverous alone makes the whole record)
Night Dreamer
Schizophrenia
Adam's Apple
JuJu
The Soothsayer
The All Seeing Eye

Never really got into Super Nova, never heard the last two from '70 (BN was in the tank by then anyway), and not counting Et Cetera since it wasn't released at the time...

I love the mid-60s Blue Notes by the avant-garde dudes, all the Wayne, Bobby Hutcherson and Joe Hen records... Herbie (the underrated Inventions and Dimensions... the alternate take of One Finger Snap from the RVG Empyrean Isles, which isHerbie in '64 nailing pretty much everything the Wynton cats would try to do in the 80s and early 90s)... Grachan Moncur III and Andrew Hill's Point of Departure, all the Andrew Hill records are awesome, Smokestack is a personal favorite...

Lately I've been listening to this wonderfully off-kilter, but relatively straightahead, Andrew Hill date on Blue Note from the 80s...
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5176IYFm8HL.jpg

I don't know why I'm not on this thread more, as I worked for a while professionally as a jazz critic, tons of fun, got to meet some heroes, and jazz from the 1920s-present makes up the majority of what I listen to every day...


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#329 2017-08-04 15:57:07

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

SanchoPanza wrote:

Wayne Shorter - Mahjong. Just ordered his Juju album, a reissue though, but I figured it seems pretty essential in my Blue Note collection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xZ7pq64K8

Awesome record... my off-the-cuff ranking of the classic Wayne Blue Notes:

Speak No Evil (Elvin on Dance Cadaverous alone makes the whole record)
Night Dreamer
Schizophrenia
Adam's Apple
JuJu
The Soothsayer
The All Seeing Eye

Never really got into Super Nova, never heard the last two from '70 (BN was in the tank by then anyway), and not counting Et Cetera since it wasn't released at the time...

I love the mid-60s Blue Notes by the avant-garde dudes, all the Wayne, Bobby Hutcherson and Joe Hen records... Herbie (the underrated Inventions and Dimensions... the alternate take of One Finger Snap from the RVG Empyrean Isles, which isHerbie in '64 nailing pretty much everything the Wynton cats would try to do in the 80s and early 90s)... Grachan Moncur III and Andrew Hill's Point of Departure, all the Andrew Hill records are awesome, Smokestack is a personal favorite...

Lately I've been listening to this wonderfully off-kilter, but relatively straightahead, Andrew Hill date on Blue Note from the 80s...
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com … YFm8HL.jpg

I don't know why I'm not on this thread more, as I worked for a while professionally as a jazz critic, tons of fun, got to meet some heroes, and jazz from the 1920s-present makes up the majority of what I listen to every day...

I actually rank both Night Dream and Juju ahead of Speak No Evil. Though Wayne Shorters best composition it "Sincerely Diana" from the A Night In Tunisia album. I loved that configuration of Art Blakley and The Jazz Messengers, the way it all blended together so perfectly. Lee Morgan and Wayne Shorter sounded so unified. I haven't gotten that deep into jazz though, I have some albums that I listen to, though there is a one record that I'm after just because of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9LRaotI1Io

Swedish jazz from 1966. Criticize it.

 

#330 2017-08-04 21:40:51

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

SanchoPanza wrote:

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

SanchoPanza wrote:

Wayne Shorter - Mahjong. Just ordered his Juju album, a reissue though, but I figured it seems pretty essential in my Blue Note collection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xZ7pq64K8

Awesome record... my off-the-cuff ranking of the classic Wayne Blue Notes:

Speak No Evil (Elvin on Dance Cadaverous alone makes the whole record)
Night Dreamer
Schizophrenia
Adam's Apple
JuJu
The Soothsayer
The All Seeing Eye

Never really got into Super Nova, never heard the last two from '70 (BN was in the tank by then anyway), and not counting Et Cetera since it wasn't released at the time...

I love the mid-60s Blue Notes by the avant-garde dudes, all the Wayne, Bobby Hutcherson and Joe Hen records... Herbie (the underrated Inventions and Dimensions... the alternate take of One Finger Snap from the RVG Empyrean Isles, which isHerbie in '64 nailing pretty much everything the Wynton cats would try to do in the 80s and early 90s)... Grachan Moncur III and Andrew Hill's Point of Departure, all the Andrew Hill records are awesome, Smokestack is a personal favorite...

Lately I've been listening to this wonderfully off-kilter, but relatively straightahead, Andrew Hill date on Blue Note from the 80s...
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com … YFm8HL.jpg

I don't know why I'm not on this thread more, as I worked for a while professionally as a jazz critic, tons of fun, got to meet some heroes, and jazz from the 1920s-present makes up the majority of what I listen to every day...

I actually rank both Night Dream and Juju ahead of Speak No Evil. Though Wayne Shorters best composition it "Sincerely Diana" from the A Night In Tunisia album. I loved that configuration of Art Blakley and The Jazz Messengers, the way it all blended together so perfectly. Lee Morgan and Wayne Shorter sounded so unified. I haven't gotten that deep into jazz though, I have some albums that I listen to, though there is a one record that I'm after just because of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9LRaotI1Io

Swedish jazz from 1966. Criticize it.

Haha, there's a ton of Swedish jazz on iTunes for some reason, a lot of it is cool.

"Sincerely Diana" is awesome, all the Wayne Jazz Messengers albums were great - he actually turned down Miles in 1960 when Coltrane left because he wanted to keep his gig as JM music director, which he left after "Free For All" (I think) in '64 and then went to Miles, replaced the short-lived (in that group) Sam Rivers...


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#331 2017-09-23 19:09:00

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Right now, Scott LaFaro...

https://genevanightout.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/lafaro1crop.jpg


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#332 2017-09-23 20:09:17

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Speaking of LaFaro, Portrait in Jazz. Heard it on youtube, lovely album. Still trying to find it, though, along with Jazz Impressions of Japan.

Last edited by Pennies_and_Oxfords (2017-09-23 20:10:32)


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#333 2017-09-23 20:28:20

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

On vinyl, you mean? Because it's definitely been reissued on CD and in digital versions... It's funny you mention it, Portrait In Jazz is playing on my speakers right now... It's one of the perfect albums for me, and I was lucky enough to hear it at the very beginning of my exposure to jazz. It is a really lovely record.


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#334 2017-09-24 02:30:21

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Yeah, vinyl. I've recently started collecting. Jazz Impressions was what got me into it, that's why I'm searching high and low for it. I agree though, Portrait in Jazz is a fantastic album. Thank God records are easier to come by than a 36R sport coat, haha.


36R | 15/32 | 32x29.5 | EU42 | 7 3/8

 

#335 2017-09-25 10:22:18

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

James Blood Ulmer Live Saalfelden 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0VS1zkJspc&t=1309s

Dig Bitches Brew? Think that Hendrix' Experience was just the rehearsals for the Band of Gypsys? You'll dig this

James Blood Ulmer, guitar and vocals
Ronny Drayton, guitar
Oliver Lake, alto saxophone
David Murray, tenor saxophone
Hamiet Bluiett, baritone saxophone
Calvin Jones, electric bass
Grant Calvin Weston & Aubrey Dayle, drums


'Bill Murden becomes the hero of the day as he rescues a confused duck.'

 

#336 2017-09-25 11:34:17

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Big ups for Oliver Lake, David Murray, Hamiet Bluett... If you haven't checked out all of David Murray's output from the 1980s, you're wrong.


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#337 2017-09-26 12:47:35

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Found out about this one the other day, very cool....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhp43v-yd8
http://i.imgur.com/Knz4yejl.jpg


14.5-15/32-33  36R

 

#338 2017-09-26 15:07:06

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

MCM Geography Teacher wrote:

James Blood Ulmer Live Saalfelden 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0VS1zkJspc&t=1309s

Dig Bitches Brew? Think that Hendrix' Experience was just the rehearsals for the Band of Gypsys? You'll dig this

James Blood Ulmer, guitar and vocals
Ronny Drayton, guitar
Oliver Lake, alto saxophone
David Murray, tenor saxophone
Hamiet Bluiett, baritone saxophone
Calvin Jones, electric bass
Grant Calvin Weston & Aubrey Dayle, drums

love James Blood Ulmer, seen him many times starting in the early '80s, seen him with most of this crew as well ... he's a hell of a bluesman, with his own inimitable style  .....

dig him in this mode most of all, thanks for posting this MCM!  what a hell of a lineup!  when the chord changes and the moaning come in at 28:19 it is glorious ........

whole shebang is very nice and spacy, would love to see this show live 

https://images.shazam.com/coverart/t51490156-b386753774_s400.jpg


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#339 2017-09-26 15:34:01

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

YoungIvy wrote:

Found out about this one the other day, very cool....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhp43v-yd8
http://i.imgur.com/Knz4yejl.jpg

Nice, check out his New View record from 1967 too...


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#340 2017-09-28 08:20:39

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

The Miles Davis 'Lost Quintet'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aLZT3DS_EA

The Lost Quintet refers to the Miles Davis Band from 1969 that featured Miles (trumpet), Dave Holland (bass), Wayne Shorter (saxophone), Jack DeJohnette (drums) and Chick Corea (keyboards), a group that never recorded together in the studios.


'Bill Murden becomes the hero of the day as he rescues a confused duck.'

 

#341 2017-09-28 08:45:55

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

^ same line up, full concert, ORTF TV broadcast Paris, Salle Pleyel November 3, 1969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=donR1Oz0lYw

Last edited by MCM Geography Teacher (2017-09-28 08:47:49)


'Bill Murden becomes the hero of the day as he rescues a confused duck.'

 

#342 2017-10-03 10:18:17

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Shit hits the fan STAND BACK it's the Complete Thursday Miles At Fillmore -live on June 18, 1970 at Fillmore East, NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPYjK7XVNUE


'Bill Murden becomes the hero of the day as he rescues a confused duck.'

 

#343 2017-10-03 12:07:03

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

MCM Geography Teacher wrote:

Shit hits the fan STAND BACK it's the Complete Thursday Miles At Fillmore -live on June 18, 1970 at Fillmore East, NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPYjK7XVNUE

ripping the fabric of space and time .... we put in our time searching for and then treasuring those hard-to-find Japanese Sony LPs of electric Miles long before the advent of CDs ....

now the stuff is much more readily available but it doesn't sound any less revelatory to me on YouTube than it did on Japanese vinyl ......


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#344 2017-11-19 08:59:07

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

I'm brushing up on my 80s jazz if anyone can recommend anything along these lines that'd be great...

Woody Shaw - To kill a Brick

https://youtu.be/nqOm9xA_POE

Last edited by Babbling Brooks (2017-11-19 08:59:42)

 

#345 2017-11-19 20:50:36

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Babbling Brooks wrote:

I'm brushing up on my 80s jazz if anyone can recommend anything along these lines that'd be great...

Woody Shaw - To kill a Brick

https://youtu.be/nqOm9xA_POE

In honor of the late Ben Riley, I recommend Sphere, his group with Charlie Rouse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHNZ5ZJR_MM

I love the stuff that was coming out of the '80s:

Geri Allen/Paul Motian/Charlie Haden (several records, Segments is a highlight)
Dave Holland, Extensions and Seeds of Time
Don Cherry, Art Deco
David Murray, Live at Sweet Basil
Bill Frisell, In Line
Pat Metheny, 80/81
Max Roach, Chattahoochee Red
Chick Corea/Miroslav Vitous/Roy Haynes, Trio Music
Andrew Hill, Shades


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#346 2017-11-22 09:11:29

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Cheers BB I thought you might be up on it, I've read the collective term for this period is neo-bop. Miles wasn't particularly flattering to the neotraditionalists work calling it "warmed up turkey".

Last edited by Babbling Brooks (2017-11-22 09:11:52)

 

#347 2017-11-22 09:33:20

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Babbling Brooks wrote:

Cheers BB I thought you might be up on it, I've read the collective term for this period is neo-bop. Miles wasn't particularly flattering to the neotraditionalists work calling it "warmed up turkey".

1980s is an interesting decadebecause so much was going on... You can hear some neo-traditional stuff going on in my recommendations, like Cherry's Art Deco with James Clay on tenor... Or the Corea/Vitous/Haynes thing... Of course Keith Jarrett started the Standards Trio in the '80s too... But the real neo-trads didn't start getting their big label contracts until the early 1990s, they were just too young in the '80s (Christian McBride, Stephen Scott, Benny Green, Joshua Redman, etc...). Wynton did his thing in the 1980s but the whole movement is much more of an early-90s beast, then by the late 90s Redman, Mehldau, Greg Osby, Kurt Rosenwinkel etc start moving jazz towards where it is now.

But guys like David Murray came to a more traditional sound through the avant-garde, rather than through textbooks like Marsalis... I really prefer David Murray or Arthur Blythe's version of traditionalism, which is much looser than Marsalis's...

Of course there were tons of legends working through the 80s too - Ben Riley (with Sphere), Roland Hanna, Hank Jones, Ron Carter, Billy Higgins... Tons out there. Actually, Francis Davis, who conducts the NPR Jazz Poll these days (full disclosure: I'm a contributor), wrote a really great book called In The Moment just about the 1980s... Very cheap on Amazon and a great read, he's one of my favorite jazz writers...

https://www.amazon.com/Moment-Francis-D … mentt+jazz

Basically in the 80s you had fusion on the one hand, traditional sounds (from 60s guys and from 80s guys) on the other hand, and then with your feet you're juggling free jazz on one side and a kind of tradition-oriented avant-garde (David Murray, Paul Motian) on the other... There's really a wealth of music being made from 1975-1989, even though it's a decade and a half that most history books out there dismiss as just The Fusion Years or The Wynton Marsalis Years.


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#348 2017-11-27 08:33:07

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Cedar Walton - Eastern Rebellion


'Bill Murden becomes the hero of the day as he rescues a confused duck.'

 

#349 2017-11-28 07:50:27

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

MCM Geography Teacher wrote:

Cedar Walton - Eastern Rebellion

Great record... Billy Higgins on drums? Clifford Jordan? CJ is very underrated... Saw Cedar Walton live once, it was a great show.


Bertie: "What do ties matter, Jeeves, at a time like this?"
Jeeves: "There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter."

 

#350 2017-11-28 09:49:13

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Re: What Jazz are you listening too? or WJAYLT for short.

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

MCM Geography Teacher wrote:

Cedar Walton - Eastern Rebellion

Great record...

Actually it's Eastern Rebellion 2 I was listening to, I love the track Ojos De Rojo, but 1 is great as well

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

Billy Higgins on drums?

on both 1 & 2 as is Sam Jones

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

Clifford Jordan?

Bob Berg, George Coleman on 1

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

CJ is very underrated...

concur, possibly shined brighter as a sideman.

Berkeley_Breathes wrote:

Saw Cedar Walton live once, it was a great show.

Don't doubt it, serious chops - no flim flam


'Bill Murden becomes the hero of the day as he rescues a confused duck.'

 
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