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#1 2018-01-09 14:52:32

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Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Apologies to Beeston in having his thread bumped off. For someone who does take the time to stick around here and put the effort into posting it's all very unjust to you, Ive tried my best to remember what was posted originally yet I think Ive probably missed a few.


http://media-cdn.sueddeutsche.de/image/sz.1.1001786/940x528/tagebuecher-fritz-j-raddatz.jpg?v=1355795810

http://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/600678661/1.3452051/default/fritz-j-raddatz-2010-in.jpg

http://media0.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/feuilleton/3578574202/1.1044534/article_multimedia_overview/willkommen-in-meiner-welt.jpg

http://media0.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/gesellschaft/1434817783/1.3451854/default/fritz-j-raddatz-1931-2015.jpg

https://032c.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/64-Im-Rahmen-der-Frankfurt-copy.jpg

https://files.newsnetz.ch/story/3/1/2/31207576/10/topelement.jpg

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/raddatz3c/11430148/2-formatOriginal.jpg

http://www.politycki-partner.de/projekte/6041_fritzj.raddatz_cprivat

https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/binary/EVLIFPK3XV7P3H3ZWK4HQBIJNBGDDKET/full/1.jpg

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/raddatz/11439700/3-format43.jpg

https://m.faz.net/media1/ppmedia/aktuell/stil/mode-design/mode/1294593164/1.1935383/width610x580/es-gibt-in-amerika-eigentlich.jpg

Last edited by Babbling Brooks (2018-01-10 01:44:42)


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#2 2018-01-10 02:23:17

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

That shows character, I appreciate that.

Most people outside Germany don't know Raddatz, but he was very relevant for intellectual debate here. Stylewise, he might not be everyone's cup of tea, but as most germans are dressed shockingly horrible, he was definitely a bright spot.


https://abload.de/img/bs-02-53-dw-kultur-do54skp.jpg

https://abload.de/img/1tzsqf.jpg

The most "ivy" picture I could find:

https://abload.de/img/raddatz_fritz_j_1x8s6i.png

Edit: I have no idea why the pictures are not shown properly. You'll have to click the links. Any news about the forum update? This is quite nerve-racking.

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#3 2018-01-10 11:52:10

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Those pictures show up fine for me Classic. No news to date I'm afraid.


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#4 2018-01-11 12:00:26

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

What can I say? He WAS an eccentric literature critic, whereas today's satoralists who want to get noticed want to LOOK like an eccentric literature critic.

 

#5 2018-01-11 12:02:32

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

He WAS gay.
He WAS sexually abused by his parents.
He LIVED life to the full.
He HAD a huge flat full of expensive decadent bric a brac.
He DID take his own life when there was no way out.

Compare that to Crompton and all the wannabes.

 

#6 2018-01-11 12:08:22

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Name ONE Patti Homo visitor who has a real life beyond posing there.

 

#7 2018-01-11 12:58:07

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Beestonplace wrote:

What can I say? He WAS an eccentric literature critic, whereas today's satoralists who want to get noticed want to LOOK like an eccentric literature critic.

Ha, this is too accurate!


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#8 2018-01-11 13:10:38

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Beestonplace wrote:

He WAS gay.
He WAS sexually abused by his parents.
He LIVED life to the full.

You write that as though living life to the full was a result of the first two aspects.

Im not that keen on suicide either.


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#9 2018-01-11 13:27:24

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

You are reading that into my post.

 

#10 2018-01-11 14:31:25

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Beestonplace wrote:

He WAS gay.
He WAS sexually abused by his parents.
He LIVED life to the full.
He HAD a huge flat full of expensive decadent bric a brac.
He DID take his own life when there was no way out.

Compare that to Crompton and all the wannabes.

A few corrections:

He was bisexual.
He was abused by his stepparents.


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#11 2018-01-11 14:37:30

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Kingston1an wrote:

Beestonplace wrote:

He WAS gay.
He WAS sexually abused by his parents.
He LIVED life to the full.

You write that as though living life to the full was a result of the first two aspects.

Im not that keen on suicide either.

I do agree with Beeston, the emphasis makes it a little odd to read but I don't think there's any cause and effect being established here. Just some context/biography it seems to me...

Something interesting I see looking on Google Images for Raddatz is that his style was really pretty varied, especially with shirt and tie combos... It's not one look he stuck to throughout the years, certainly one general aesthetic, but he can go from monochromatic looks to very boldly striped shirts with I'd say jarring tie color juxtapositions to more conventional color combinations... Very interesting


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#12 2018-01-11 15:00:41

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Classic wrote:

Beestonplace wrote:

He WAS gay.
He WAS sexually abused by his parents.
He LIVED life to the full.
He HAD a huge flat full of expensive decadent bric a brac.
He DID take his own life when there was no way out.

Compare that to Crompton and all the wannabes.

A few corrections:

He was bisexual.
He was abused by his stepparents.

And the flat was of above average size, but not huge.


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#13 2018-01-11 15:25:23

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Babbling Brooks wrote:

And the flat was of above average size, but not huge.

GOLD


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#14 2018-01-12 10:37:28

Beestonplace
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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/sex--suff-u … s-28829826

Well he claimed "1000 men and 20 women". Is that "bisexual"? Maybe.

 

#15 2018-01-12 10:48:22

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Raddatz hat friends like Susan Sontag, or Inge Feltrinelli, whose Italian husband published "Doctor Zhivago" and was murdered by left-wing terrorists in 1970ies Italy.

Not "friends" from an online clothing forum called Manfoodam and who lives 100,000 miles away.

He lived in Harvestehude, the part of Hamburg which has a very nice long part of the lake Aussenalster, in a nicely aged turn-of-the-century block of apartments with direct access to the lake. A lifestyle most iGents would happily subscribe to.

PhD, not an online degree in "media design".

And so on.

 

#16 2018-01-13 00:01:51

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

The point you make is a valid one, people used to have some interesting quality or skill that would throw them into the public eye, and then people might pick up on what they wear. Now youve got, what's for the most part well paid normals passing themselves off as creative types on social media. It appears that a lot of interesting creative people havent got two pennies to rub together, all those great creative pursuits of the 20th century are on their arse. At best all most people can hope for is red bull sponsorship.

Last edited by Babbling Brooks (2018-01-13 00:03:58)


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#17 2018-01-13 02:06:02

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Babbling Brooks wrote:

And the flat was of above average size, but not huge.

I forgot to mention that.


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#18 2018-01-13 02:12:41

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Beestonplace wrote:

https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/sex--suff-und-eitelkeiten-chefsekretaerin-von--spiegel--und--zeit--packt-aus-28829826

Well he claimed "1000 men and 20 women". Is that "bisexual"? Maybe.

He described himself as bisexual in several interviews.


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#19 2018-01-13 02:42:59

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Re: Fritz J. Raddatz (1931 2015)

Beestonplace wrote:

Raddatz hat friends like Susan Sontag, or Inge Feltrinelli, whose Italian husband published "Doctor Zhivago" and was murdered by left-wing terrorists in 1970ies Italy.

Not "friends" from an online clothing forum called Manfoodam and who lives 100,000 miles away.

He lived in Harvestehude, the part of Hamburg which has a very nice long part of the lake Aussenalster, in a nicely aged turn-of-the-century block of apartments with direct access to the lake. A lifestyle most iGents would happily subscribe to.

PhD, not an online degree in "media design".

And so on.

Babbling Brooks wrote:

The point you make is a valid one, people used to have some interesting quality or skill that would throw them into the public eye, and then people might pick up on what they wear. Now youve got, what's for the most part well paid normals passing themselves off as creative types on social media. It appears that a lot of interesting creative people havent got two pennies to rub together, all those great creative pursuits of the 20th century are on their arse. At best all most people can hope for is red bull sponsorship.

Very well put, thank you both!


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