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#76 2012-05-24 07:54:05
- Oliver
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
100% silk; white buttons; 3 patches; 2 flap; hook vent; 5/16" stitches
#77 2012-05-24 08:19:02
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Too nipped in for me, at least on that promo pic...
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#78 2012-05-24 08:32:24
- Oliver
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Probably pinned in the back, I doubt it has that much waist supression off the rack.
#80 2012-05-24 08:46:22
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#81 2012-05-24 08:48:12
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#83 2012-05-24 13:12:11
- 4F Hepcat
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound
#84 2012-05-24 13:20:18
- 4F Hepcat
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
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#85 2012-05-24 13:59:06
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Agreed.
And I can't stress enough just how much of all of this is all just marketing. Press & Brooks present themselves just as you say.
Problem is when you have a 1957 Harris Tweed Sack to compare things with. Then you start to question 'The Tradition' on offer out there today.
Southwick has been thought by some to be the best 'Trad' RTW / MTM... But if you've ever seen a 1962 Southwick... They've changed a lot.
http://www.southwick.com/models
Yeah, everybody is talking about 'Tradition', but who is actually really representing it with new RTW / MTM clothing out there outside of England & Japan ?
#86 2012-05-24 14:22:28
- One For Bop
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
''By hurling yourself into the abyss you discover its a feather bed.”
#87 2012-05-24 14:23:33
- One For Bop
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Last edited by One For Bop (2012-05-24 14:23:52)
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#88 2012-05-24 14:32:03
- Liam Mac
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
These all look rather stiff to me.
#89 2012-05-25 04:41:15
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Maybe that's also to do with presentation.
But you're right, they do look stiff somehow.
It lacks that absolutely necessary "generosity". They don't look comfortable!
So that's the current Southwick Douglas?
A few years ago, they had a very American "preacher's cut".
Now it looks exaggeratedly slim and short, almost tight.
Something inbetween would have been way better.
Maybe if you size up it looks easier and not that stiff. I'm not sure, though.
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”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#90 2012-05-25 06:27:16
- Liam Mac
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Perhaps presentation. Perhaps the model?
Short I like but that bottom shot is verging on bumfreezer. That's too short for me. It looks like it would restrict movement too. Not good.
#91 2012-05-25 06:45:38
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
They indeed look stiff and armoured.
I wonder why they gave him the glasses for the last pic - the only pic with a dark background. It is only pic where his upper body is leaning more to his left.
What is the message here, what is the message...
Just to get a repp..
#92 2012-05-25 06:53:09
- 4F Hepcat
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
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#93 2012-05-25 07:27:05
- woofboxer
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'.
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#94 2012-05-25 09:24:54
- 4F Hepcat
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Well some of those plus-size models do look rather fetching and at least they will eat something in the restaurant.
Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound
#98 2012-05-26 02:13:21
- Matt
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
In the US, maybe Thom Browne and the BB Black Fleece line is why people like Southwick, who should know better, started making jackets that seem way too short, and restrictive.
Black Fleece models that BB presented also had suit trousers at ankle length, no socks, and lace up shoes.
Overall, rather jarring, and probably on the way to the Salvation Army box.
#99 2012-05-26 02:40:33
- Matt
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Maybe this is the start of the problem.
http://www.brooksbrothers.com/BlackFleeceLooks.process?Parent_Id=593&topParent=Men&CCID=20179594203892368&QTR=ZZf23300144Za20179594Zg172Zw34Zm501Zc203892368Zs3086ZZ&CLK=750120526013706922&ac=003&ai=2C0CDAF6A64309FE12216DEDA2B8146E73505043&ad=8453482467&sp=&fb=thom%20brown%20mens&mt=b&aceid=&cmp=PPC_GOOGLE_B&&WT.srch=1
Also, Southwick is now being guided by Mark McNeary.
#100 2012-05-26 03:55:48
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".
Matt - I think you've put your finger on it once more. It's 'the usual suspects' again !
Ivy is a classic style - Timeless. There is no new Ivy just like there is no old Ivy. There is a spectrum of Ivy looks, but the core style is like the orders of architecture - It is laid down as a stylistic ideal.
All this silly fashion stuff will end up just where you say. In the Ivy hall of fame it will not be !