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#1 2007-02-09 12:16:41
- Terry Lean
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Modernism
In no order at all I'll start with:
"A house is a machine for living in." ...
Christopher Dressler...
(The other) Goldfinger...
The Seagram Building...
Bill Evans...
Gerry Mulligan's haircut...
2 Russell Street...
The Flamingo...
https://www.modernclassicsdirect.co.uk/product.php?productid=16152&cat=12&page=1 ...
The Brooks Brothers Button-down Shirt...
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More Stylist/Modernist fun -
Please feel free to add to the spirit of the style on this thread as you see fit.
Miles and Mies belong here along with Curtis Mayfield.
It's all good!
t.
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#3 2007-02-10 06:15:06
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Re: Modernism
Just thinking about all those Brooks 'firsts'...
Seersucker, Madras, Shetlands...
Time was this was a shop that brought the US the latest stuff from all around the world - Inspiration taken from everywhere and given a (then) modern American twist.
Brooks didn't sell old English Tweeds but new American ones!
It's Tradtion, Jim... But not as we know it.
This is all brand new updated stuff in origin.
And I love how it has become so historic and so venerable so very quickly in America.
It's a tradition because you want it to be...
I'm cool with that.
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#4 2007-02-10 08:59:23
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Re: Modernism
I think in England we'd call all this (107 year old shirts, 71 year old shoes) 'Classic' rather than 'Traditional'.
'Traditional' is a more loaded word and in England would make you think of something a lot older, a Scotsman's kilt or something like that.
Maybe that's why the word is used in the U.S.? It adds a little more age to all this...
Still all fine & dandy, but it's interesting to play with these things from different perspectives.
The Ivy style is an American style and so it IS Traditional in the US as it is being judged there by US standards today.
Elsewhere it's all different again.
Interesting?
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#7 2007-02-10 12:12:42
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Re: Modernism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7rDzvYGyR8
Prep-esq.
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#8 2007-02-10 17:52:02
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Re: Modernism
Terry --- interesting stuff. I'd say that the Ivy aesthetic in America is almost antithetical to the modernist aesthetic in areas like Architecture. At least as interpreted by an American eye?
And by the way, let's put this business of classic and traditional in perspective: with a few exceptions, does not America have the longest continually operating "Government" in the modern world? Last I checked, you lads had all those reform acts in the nineteenth century, Germany wasn't a country until late in that century, and France went through a variety of Republics. We, however, continue to operate, (albeit shakily?) as a paragon of continuity! Huzzah & whatnot...
""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#10 2007-02-11 02:52:04
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Re: Modernism
Last edited by Terry Lean (2007-02-11 15:17:30)
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#13 2007-02-11 08:25:39
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Hey!
I like the Yanks.
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#14 2007-02-11 08:34:33
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Re: Modernism
Funny how post WWII all your new interpretations of our old past slowly filtered into England and because the detailing and cut were so different from the 'real McCoy' English (Scottish!) Tweeds, etc., we took it all up as being incredibly 'modern' back then, doncha think?
You copied us looking for tradition, made all the details of the clothes different, and then we found them long after you'd done all this and discovered a brand new take on our old styles.
As Trad as you had in the US, but brand spanking new back here in stale old, jaded Blighty. Your Trad made our Trad Mod!
Unique in the history of getting dressed I think...
Thank you!
t.
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You're going to rise up singing"
#15 2007-02-11 11:27:55
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Re: Modernism
never knowing enought to learn between modern, traditional and any mix blend or sub set between I know I saw a stripe on stripe lavendar shirt I fell in love with yesterday and will go back to find or have made in a better breed as much. Now I will need to find me a nice purple mix tie to go with it along with some nice frock coat and a lovely pair of pleated front slacks all in greys of course bottomed out with a pair of maroon Lizzard skin boots and some similar colored braces.
Now not sure if that is modern, trad of just plain sickening but I do know its me once I top it off with my Artolian Crossing fine lid.
Do you folks have any thoughts on a man or his dress that soulds possibly so askew?
Charlie
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#16 2007-02-11 11:30:49
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You be you and you'll be grand.
D.
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#17 2007-02-11 15:16:05
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http://www.cutlerandgross.co.uk/index.htm
If you want Le Corbusier's frames here's your source.
Quite a Modernist, Le C. ...
Never saw him in a Parka tho'...
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#19 2007-02-13 04:27:28
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#21 2007-02-13 13:47:59
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Re: Modernism
Or did the Americans deliberately make the clothing items different to give them an American 'flavour'?
Could be.
But that makes them brand-new, updated classics-with-a-twist based on ideas imported from overseas!
And the 'Tradition' is...?
So American Trad beagn as either bad emulations (or copies!) of Anglo/Scottish stuff or as brand new classics-with-an-American twist wardrobe items from that hot, edgy store Brooks Broz.
Either way I don't care - I love the style. But it's hard to take a lot of talk about Ye Tradition on all this.
I think what you have is a classic American style. Let's say it's 107 years old just to be nice... Although that F. Scott Fitzgerald shot of the first recognisable Trad suit is 1927, which brings Ye Tradition down to 87 years...
Still it's a tradition now and for what it is it's a damn good one!
Stay healthy -
D.
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You're going to rise up singing"
#22 2007-02-13 15:41:40
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Re: Modernism
So lots of Scots influence on English upper class clothing, but no Irish, eh? Oh well, have to settle for the poets and playwrights, then, I suppose ... 