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#76 2007-03-01 13:52:43

Horace
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Re: Tailor to Client: You're Fired!

Not always, but often in the few times I've not been satisfied with what I've had made (and it's usually only the few details that I've been unsatisfied with -- but then again details may be everything to some), it's been because, looking back on it, I'm the one who didn't communicate with the the tailor as well I could have.


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#77 2007-03-01 14:13:08

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Take care, gents.
God bless.
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#78 2007-03-01 14:31:01

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#79 2007-03-01 14:57:23

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Yes, but I thought that part of your earlier point was accepting bespoke items(and paying handsomely for them)despite mistakes made by the tailor. The stylessness(GR?)of another client is one thing. Messing up your order is another.
Flannel cashmere, you say? *Dr. Evil pinkie smile* Hmmmmm....
That said, Mr. Corvato(in the pics you've provided)uses some really exquisite fabrics which actually look durable, too. What a concept!
I definately agree that your bespoke suits should become like family-or at least a good PR rep.
BTW, when are ya gonna post pics of yourself in both the Corvato AND Paris gear? Or at least the suits. Your PC shirts are beautiful, to say the least.

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#80 2007-03-01 15:09:05

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#81 2007-03-01 15:46:59

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Re: Tailor to Client: You're Fired!

Fly off the handle? No, no, no. Kindness first, definately.
However, if he arrogantly refuses to remedy a mistake which was clearly his, I may have to whip out my inner Ike, Shaft and Rick James, circa 1984.......

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#82 2007-03-01 17:47:15

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Re: Tailor to Client: You're Fired!

Often the client thinks he knows what's the best cut for him, and what details are most flattering, when, in fact, a second opinion, that coming from the tailor, is helpful in developing the most flattering gament.  To borrow from an old saying involving lawyers representing themselves, someone who pretends to be a tailor has a fool for a client.  Case in point is a chap on another fora vogueing his spanking new suit that is the result of him having imposed himself on the tailor, resulting in a rather unflattering, even odd-looking, suit:  Gorge so high it is almost touching the shoulder, lapels so wide, the points are almost extending beyond the chest, vest too high.  The tailor knew it was materializing into a horror show, and, indeed, the end result is not pretty.


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#83 2007-03-01 18:07:12

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Back with a vengeance.

 

#84 2007-03-01 18:29:35

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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#85 2007-03-01 19:12:10

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#86 2007-03-01 19:42:33

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#87 2007-03-01 22:18:46

Horace
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#88 2007-03-01 22:25:13

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Re: Tailor to Client: You're Fired!


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#89 2007-03-01 22:33:23

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Re: Tailor to Client: You're Fired!


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#90 2007-03-01 22:51:01

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I've been fired by both a tailor and shirtmaker whose patience I tried, they said I was "picky". I've gone on to discover that there are "picky" makers, who now try my patience.smile

 

#91 2007-03-02 22:38:09

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#92 2007-03-02 22:48:02

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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#93 2007-03-02 23:22:56

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Re: Tailor to Client: You're Fired!

Excellent allusion, Horace.

Being able to articulate the problem, issue, or concept in such a way that the worker you hire can digest it will lead to a much better outcome. However, hovering over a mechanic while s/he's replacing your brake pads is highly inadvisable.

 

#94 2007-03-02 23:50:04

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Take care, gents.
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#95 2007-03-03 00:02:41

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What I've always done with my former tailors is just bring in a sketch, say, "This is what I want(kindly, of course) in cut, color, etc. Let's talk fabrics, trimmings, etc." As I said before, when I do it that way, their eyes just light up!!! I asked my college tailor why he liked them so much. He said that they made his job SOOOOO much easier because everything's right in front of him like a GPS. With so many other customers who tried to describe things in terms they didn't fully understand and often misused, the level of miscommunication was gigantic(Thank God for style books, I guess. I never used 'em.), and would oftentimes lead to nothing but frustration. It may be a good idea to hook up w/ someone who can sketch. Or maybe even do what decorators recommend. Pictures. Makes their jobs easier, because what you want may not always be in the style books, knowwhatI'msayin'?


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-BCL

 

#96 2007-03-03 00:21:06

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I've just had an idea. What if tailors used the same type of computer imaging used by Morgenthal Frederics in NYC? They take your pic, upload it, then you can virtually try on thousand of frames in seconds.
For example, you know shirtmakers have tons of collar and cuff shapes on display/in a book? Why can't tailors do that with lapels, gorge heights, button stances, shoulder shapes, etc.? They take your pics, upload them, take your natural frame and coloring into account, and build the suit for a preview right there onscreen, thereby (perhaps) avoiding those unpleasant surprises so many speak of, and if the fabrics have been previously uploaded, all the better.
I'm sure SOMEONE can create the program. It'll save tons of time and frustration for both tailor and customer, leaving the tailor more time to actually make the garment.
Yes, some may hate this idea and decry it as another attempt at wiping away traditional values/the tailor's eye, etc., but, to me, it's just a way of finally bringing some of them into the 21st Century, while retaining the great tradition of custom-MADE clothing, not custom-OMG, this discussion is taking waaaay too long before I even make the clothing, clothing.
                                                     *cue "Star Trek" theme*


Take care, gents.
God bless.
-BCL

 

#97 2007-03-03 07:35:37

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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#98 2007-03-03 11:52:55

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#99 2007-03-03 12:01:33

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#100 2007-03-03 15:35:32

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Take care, gents.
God bless.
-BCL

 

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