http://putthison.com/post/49779346900/dating-brooks-brothers-shirts-i-was-cleaning-up-my
No surprise to see that 'Brooks' don't know their own history.
So, were the "Makers" shirts available in Traditional, Regular and Slim fits across all the years?
Still to take the plunge on a vintage item and would need something with a pit-to-pit of around 22" to get a reasonable, but still billowy, fit. Did such a sizing exist on the 6 button placket examples or were they all much roomier?
Slim fits yes, however I believe they are much, much rarer now. Exact measurements varied over the years, however if you wear high rise trousers the standard full cut looks perfect.
If you tell us your neck size it's possible someone can tell you the typical p2p.
^ I would need something in the 15-15.5" range if I were to wear it fully buttoned with a tie.
The few Makers I've seen on Ebay/Etsy (not sure what vintage) have had a pit-to-pit of around 23" which may be OK (a p-t-p of 22.25" is the largest I have on any of my current shirts and that's pretty roomy).
The photos Jerrod posted on his blog (below) gave me some cause for concern. I guess I've not yet embraced the full-on Ivy "billow", lol.
http://oxfordclothbuttondown.com/2013/09/the-myth-of-the-slim-fit-shirt/
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It's also possible that when seen from any distance any difference to the classic collar was less noticeable.
Its not a makers and my guess is if it was made in the USA, it wasn't made at Brooks factory by was outsourced.
That's old, before they were required to state where things are made
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345 is not doing much for me.
/\ haha, safari tunic with epaulets, Scaramanga Style! jeez
Katon that 1971 Brooks catalogue page .... heads should have rolled ..... they should still be rolling ......
The tracksuit doesn't look too bad to me. (Although it doesn't look too good either.) A poor man's Incontinence pants - there were a lot around back then. Although being Brooks it may well have cost more than an Incontinence pants.
Anyone remember when M&S sold the Brooks Brothers OCBD. I think in the late 80's or perhaps the early 90's. They copied the label and they were exactly the same shirt. I remember reading about the deal that Brooks and M&S did but it didn't last long as not much interest. I'm sure I still have some knocking around or perhaps this was a rather dull Ivyist dream.
Would you believe I lost the bloody thing...dare I say it had a nicer looking roll undine than the makers..very similar fit to the 6 button makers even down to the shoulders being a bit narrow for a 17 collar.. but less billow in the body...and plastic buttons
The bean us made oxfords are very similar..someone once commented they were made in the same place too
Mine didnt have that label..just a M&S one with made in USA under it
I came across a makers ocbd with blue label whilst searching eBay, has anyone been able to figure out what's different about them?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/nwot-vtg-usa-made-BROOKS-BROTHERS-makers-dress-shirt-14-5-34-blue-oxford-ocdb-/391687131963?hash=item5b325f533b%3Ag%3Af2MAAOSw44BYe%7Epd&nma=true&si=Yf%252BjD%252FE%252B4u5swvclUuUAEunSrYU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I think brother Yuca got to the bottom of this.
Wasnt it a lighter weight Oxford ?
Lighter weight cloth. In the case of blue Oxfords they are also a lighter colour. Good for the summer if it's not too hot (they're not as lightweight as the likes of end on end).
They're great shirts, but at this time of year neither of mine gets touched. Once spring springs they will be in use.