Film Noir Buff Style Forum / First use of the term'casual' as in subculture ?

Charlie Kasso · 2013-10-25 15:02:01

Like that fella got credited for naming Northern Soul...the name must have come from somewhere and in all I've read the origin of the name is never placed with pinpoint accuracy...anyone?

4F Hepcat · 2013-10-26 00:29:29

According to the Urban Dictionary its origins are from Liverpool and Manchester in the early 80s, Wilki goes earlier to the late 70s.

It will be good if someone can pinpoint its origins.

Topstitcher · 2013-10-26 03:54:41

Before Casuals I remember a tribe called Perrys or Perry Boys. Ring any bells with anyone? They had wedge haircuts, wore sports wear brands and jeans... I think they were more into clubbing than footie. Southern (as opposed to Northern) Soul & Funk ? They might have been Northerners too, not sure.

Just found this - http://perryboys.com/

Charlie Kasso · 2013-10-26 05:59:19

Ive read about these Perries, their outfit sounds like a school trip where you were allowed to wear your own clothes : )

Charlie Kasso · 2013-10-26 06:13:35

formby · 2013-10-26 06:53:13

Charlie Kasso · 2013-10-26 07:04:29

formby · 2013-10-26 07:19:21

formby · 2013-10-26 07:27:59

Musically, I can't pin a scene on them. Reason being I come from a family of inveterate music lovers, and have somewhat eclectic tastes.

However,

Groups like

A Teardrop Explodes.

The Human League.

Echo and the Bunnymen.

XTC

Were popular as I recall. The Teardrop Explodes (Julian Cope) and Echo and the Bunnymen were part of the scene around Eric's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric%27s_Club

doghouse · 2013-10-26 10:24:24

Echo were alright in my estimation. Human League not so much.

formby · 2013-10-26 10:37:05

doghouse · 2013-10-26 10:42:28

It had moments here. Still some devoted fans actually, I'm just not a big one. Some of it I like though if it has enough hook. They play some good stuff on Sirius/XM sat radio on the 1st Wave channel.

4F Hepcat · 2013-10-26 10:50:11

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doghouse · 2013-10-26 10:56:28

Gary Numan and Flock of Seagulls were serious one hit wonders. Depeche Mode however have a very devoted following, I actually rate them fairly well even though I don't like everything from them. They showed a diversity that far outstripped the other two you mentioned and most other of their ilk, which certainly led to their staying power.

Goodyear welt · 2013-10-26 10:57:09

At the start of the Casual thing it very much depended on where in the country you were. In Leicester the term was at first, Trendy. I don't recall that the Casual's ever had a single musical direction. It was never a sub-culture in that sense. Jazz funk was popular, but later it was B-bop and Street Beat was massive. I've read that Street Beat was a big influence on the casual but I don't recall it was at the time, not in Leicester anyway. I was always into rare soul, later I remember (late-ish 80s) indie pop was popular and some of the lads would go to an indie club called Fan Club. Really it was all over when E came along and that was at the heart of popular culture for yoof. Trendy you see.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/fell-football-hooligans/story-15019411-detail/story.html

formby · 2013-10-26 11:01:34

4F Hepcat · 2013-10-26 11:07:09

^That's because they Human League were spending 6 months just tuning their synths!

formby · 2013-10-26 11:07:39

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4F Hepcat · 2013-10-26 11:15:40

They were both part of the same band until they split when The Human League wanted to explore more poppy stuff.

formby · 2013-10-26 11:19:10

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4F Hepcat · 2013-10-26 11:22:09

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