Last edited by formby (2014-01-09 11:46:16)

As for the Jews. The anti-zionists always look to suggest that the holocaust did not occur. Which is of course illegal I think in Germany , the US? and maybe the UK? Dont quote me.

They believe that it was a way of the Jewish finally receiving their own land. Bit of a strange conspiracy to stage. But some seem to suggest it was..including ex bnp Nick Griffin

Im very interested in conspiracies (more to disprove) and WW2. Not sure why, WW2 always seemed so recent when I was a kid in the 80s.. still largely prevalent in country's psyche. I think Ive always been intrested in that period and understanding it. Which is why I think I got my anti-racist leanings. But also a desire for truth.  We all know war is a shady business at best.

From what I have read I can only gather two main bits of information. The Balfour Treaty which basically outlined giving Israel or Angola (again dont quote me, but it was an african country) to the Jews this all started off in the late 1800s. Way before Hitler showing up and influential Jewish business men made a point in the Uk and the US to see this through.

By the time Hitler came along and did what he did the idea of a Jewish state had been on the table for nearly 50 years.

I think some people try to suggest the influential Jews tried to play up the level of Jews killed by Hitler in order to push through the formation of an Israeli state. This of course goes against the evidence of the holocaust. Which seems odd seeming as there is so much to prove it.

However I have watched non-biased documentaries suggesting less were killed than suggested and many actually died from disease.  Saying that the Nazis clearly had a policy to detain Jews. The idea of genocide is actually questioned in the documentary as after studying concentration camps such as Auschwitz the numbers killed seem to be unfeasibly large for the set up.


Anyway its all very interesting Im not saying I believe this was the case with the genocide but the documentary lays down some very interesting observations. Not enough for me to believe the detainment of Jews never happend. But as to what the Nazis were actually doing.  And how this all lead to a Jewish state, it all makes for very interesting speculation. Whether its true I cant say, but Holocaust deniers obviously have an agenda so I dont listen to them. Finding unbiased histroical information is hard.

I just find it all rather interesting it doesn't excuse events. Whether it was 3 million or 1 million. Or how they were killed. But the truth is the truth if there is reason to believe events were different than outlined Id like to see factually why this is believed to be the case.

All of this information is published Hep. All these people have done is researched. Unless of course the documents are forged. But there is nothing to suggest this is the case. I'll PM you a link.

Don't PM me any link to false forged histories denying the holocaust and the scale of the industrial murder in the death camps. This is proven fact, by the Nazis themselves!

Last edited by 4F Hepcat (2014-01-10 11:00:22)

^^^she seems to be enjoying herself
On the other thing

Oh dear
Its a personnel choice of course, but i do believe some things just shouldn't be debated.
Nothing good can come of it.

I really do find it odd why Holocaust denial exsists at all? Was it to destabilise the allies after the war?