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#1 2014-08-23 06:42:23

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The Blight in Blighty

The blight in Blighty
Antipodemia
Mark Beeson
Professor of International Politics at Murdoch University

https://theconversation.com/the-blight-in-blighty-30826

I’m what used to be known in less politically correct times as a whinging pom. Locals, among whom I now count myself, will be relieved to learn that I mainly moan about my former, rather than my adopted, homeland these days. In that regard, however, the pickings are rich.

No doubt my jaundiced attitude to the UK reflects a not untroubled adolescence and the fact that the education authorities forgot to actually educate me. When, with the enthusiastic encouragement of the headmaster, I left Lawrence Weston Comprehensive School clutching my one O level (English literature – thanks for asking), little did I imagine I’d ever get a job, let alone one I actually enjoyed.

In the face of some stiff competition, my alma mater may have been the worst school in Bristol. The staff were employed primarily for their skills in short-term crowd control rather than teaching. The school itself has now been closed down and looms over the surrounding, unrelentingly grim, run-down housing estate like a permanent boarded-up, graffitied reminder of public policy failure on an epic scale.

I mention all this partly for therapeutic reasons, but mainly because social mobility in the UK has actually got worse since I first left. According to The Guardian:

24% of vice-chancellors, 32% of MPs, 51% of top Medics, 54% of FTSE-100 chief execs, 54% of top journalists, 70% of High Court judges … went to private school, though only 7% of the population do.
Even Britain’s former education secretary, Michael Gove, has declared that the number of Old Etonian school chums in the cabinet – including prime minister David Cameron and a number of his key advisers – is ‘ridiculous’. What’s more remarkable, perhaps, is the fact that this hegemony of the posh boys is widely accepted – even encouraged.

The popularity of another Old Etonian, Boris Johnson, is a reminder of just how far a combination of noblesse oblige and amiable buffoonery can get you in British politics.

Under such circumstances, it’s no surprise that at least some of the Scots might be contemplating cutting their ties with Perfidious Albion. After all, there are currently more giant pandas in Scotland than there are Tory MPs. Scots might be forgiven for thinking that other than being a useful place for the English to park their nuclear subs and providing what can only be described as a palatial holiday home for the Queen, English toffs take them for granted.

Britain’s nuclear fleet – not to mention the two new aircraft carriers – is emblematic of the spending priorities of a nation that is plainly struggling to come to terms with its reduced importance in the world. Unbelievably enough, it was only 100 years or so ago that Britain ruled the waves. But now it’s just a middle power with expensive delusions of grandeur. It’s hard to escape the suspicion that this eye-watering expenditure on defense is the price of maintaining a presence at some of the world’s bigger, more prestigious tables.

Yet the chance to strut the international stage in way that commands even grudging respect may be coming to an end for British prime ministers, for the simple reason that Britain may be coming to an end, too. While it’s still unlikely, it’s no longer inconceivable that Scotland will go its own way – up to a point. Apparently the Scots might like to keep the pound and – even more bizarrely - the Queen, but they’d still like to be sort-of independent, nevertheless.

Apart from the host of unprecedented technical problems this will throw up about the currency, responsibility for national debts, the status of the armed forces and relations with the EU, it may well trigger a debate about the identity of what remains of Britain, too. This is a recurring recent theme in British politics heightened by Britain’s ambivalent, if not hostile attitude toward Europe, and its at times uneasy attitude toward some of its own population.

If Australia has generally got one thing very right it’s multiculturalism, notwithstanding the current paranoia about potential terrorists returning from the Middle East to sow mayhem and insurrection.

In Britain, by contrast, they really have produced home-grown terrorists who have killed their countrymen, sometimes in especially gruesome fashion. This is not as remarkable as it may seem, though. One of the most striking things about some large British cities like Birmingham, where I recently lived, is that entire areas are effectively foreign enclaves with little connection to the rest of the country and precious little sense of the sort of ‘Britishness’ that Cameron tries to encourage.

Even in London, where widespread, albeit poorly regulated, immigration has had a more positive and dynamic effect, it has also exacerbated some fundamental internal divides. ‘Up north’ things are generally less buoyant, a reality highlighted the entrenched gap in opportunities and living standards in different parts of the country.

Such differences are manifest in Britain’s steady de-industrialisation and the enormous power and importance of financial capital in the City of London.

No doubt financiers and public school headmasters alike have welcomed the influx of Russian oligarchs, for example, but these sorts of developments are helping to transform the economic priorities of the nation and make its capital too expensive for the local population to actually live in.

If the Scots do leave, the crisis of ‘British’ identity is likely to become even more acute. Unresolved internal tensions may become more visible – especially if what’s left of Britain pulls out of Europe, too. This would be an act of short-sighted folly at the best of times, but utter madness for a much smaller, less consequential British rump.

Greater England could be painfully revealed as the peripheral tax haven, theme park and European outlier it has gradually become. Don’t expect the posh boys to rescue it.

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#2 2014-08-24 15:01:56

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Re: The Blight in Blighty

‘We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,

Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.

It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,

Our wrath come after Russia’s wrath and our wrath be the worst.

It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest

God’s scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.

But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.

Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.’


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#3 2014-08-24 15:17:10

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Re: The Blight in Blighty

To be honest in a wrath off, I think Russia might win. Also, the Chinese are fucking nuts. And the Liberians eat kids before going to fight. I'd say in a global 'wrath off' we don't even take the bronze.

 

#4 2014-08-24 16:05:06

woofboxer
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Re: The Blight in Blighty

Home rule for London!


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#5 2014-08-24 17:34:27

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Re: The Blight in Blighty

http://www.newsweek.com/twice-many-british-muslims-fighting-isis-armed-forces-265865


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28873051


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/15/Muhammad-IS-Britains-Most-Popular-Boys-Name


"McQueen's message was signaled through subtraction... in a tweed or herringbone jacket and a ribbed swearer he had an electric austerity".

 

#6 2014-08-25 13:17:50

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Re: The Blight in Blighty


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#7 2014-08-25 13:35:38

formby
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Re: The Blight in Blighty

^
Its not that the statistic is bullshit, its that it doesn't tell us much, except that Muslim parents like to call their baby boys after the prophet Mohammed.


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#8 2014-08-25 14:31:07

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'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
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#9 2014-08-25 14:54:00

formby
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Re: The Blight in Blighty


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#10 2014-08-25 15:06:19

steve mcqueen fan
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Re: The Blight in Blighty


"McQueen's message was signaled through subtraction... in a tweed or herringbone jacket and a ribbed swearer he had an electric austerity".

 

#11 2014-08-25 15:07:48

Bop
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We could just stop Muslims breeding, I mean it's terrible that they have kids, and give them names etc. What is the world, or more exactly this country coming to? We need to get tough on other cultures. Our standards are clear to anyone wanting live here, alcohol abuse, teenage pregnancy and domestic violence. Lets hope that's clear.

 

#12 2014-08-25 15:28:00

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Re: The Blight in Blighty

Haha.  Best laugh all day.


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#13 2014-08-26 01:32:25

woofboxer
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'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
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#14 2014-08-26 03:08:09

Acton_Baby
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Re: The Blight in Blighty

Religion,
struggling to keep up with the 20th Century while we are living in the 21st.


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#15 2014-08-26 04:17:53

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Re: The Blight in Blighty

For those of you watching in technicolor, this one is in black and white, IS's five year plan mapped out:

http://landkartenindex.blogspot.nl/2014/06/die-landkarte-der-terrororganisation.html

The break-up of what remains of Britain, would only accelerate the Balkanisation of Blighty and facilitate the rise of jihadism to the level of civil war. We can only hope that Scotland stays within the Union and the Londoncentric political elite who have fought so hard and well for one square mile of England and nought for all else, wake-up and smell the coffee.


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#16 2014-08-26 12:49:50

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#17 2014-08-26 12:50:53

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#18 2014-08-26 16:57:01

steve mcqueen fan
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Re: The Blight in Blighty


"McQueen's message was signaled through subtraction... in a tweed or herringbone jacket and a ribbed swearer he had an electric austerity".

 

#19 2014-08-26 17:27:51

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#20 2014-08-27 00:07:01

4F Hepcat
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There's a particularly ugly stench emanating from Rotherham this morning.

The lesson of cultural relativism and appeasement is evident in the 1,400 girls raped by Pakistani sex gangs and left to rot by the local council and police, less they upset social cohesion or were accused of racism. Ugly and damning.

Still. all part of the enriching multicultural experience. A lesson to us wot, Mr Clegg?


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#21 2014-08-27 00:23:49

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I notice The Telegraph is still struggling to say the P word, so insert Asian instead. The Guardian will no doubt be running articles on the worrying rise of Islamophobia in Northern towns for the rest of the week. Encouragingly, The Daily Mail has the guts to state clearly these are gangs of Pakistani origin.

Incidently, I got a phone call from someone who has read Danny Lockwood's book yesterday and said that in light of recent events, his character portrait of Baroness Warsi is spot on.

These are dastardly times I am afraid.


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#22 2014-08-27 01:43:13

woofboxer
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Re: The Blight in Blighty

The end result of excessive political correctness - a climate where anyone in authority (or even on an internet forum) who dares suggest that a minority community might be causing a problem is liable to be labelled as, at best, slightly dotty and out of touch, at worst, a racist. If the subject matter of the events in Rotherham were not so repugnant it would be amusing to see the liberal left hand wringing as they tie themselves up in knots trying to distance themselves from any responsibility.


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#23 2014-08-27 02:02:10

Bop
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If Islam is the problem in your eyes, is every Muslim a problem? I don't think that is the case. 

My personal feeling is these people happen to be Muslim, there is a blanket approach to Muslims in this country because our media especially the Murdoch owned ones to scapegoat a whole group of people, and that is countered with an equally insulting approach from the liberal left.

We blame their communities, but as you can see they have as much control over their communities as we do of ours, and by that I mean not much.

A majority of white and black faces in the London riots for instance.

I have Muslim friends, they're intelligent, thoughtful,  good at explaining the nutter contingent of their relgion including the link between relgion and politics in Islamic countries, religion for the most part is run like a business in the arab and asian countries. A religious cause is made of everything. Law gets passed as relgious and those that want these laws act as the most relgious to garner support, its a perversion of their religion in their view.

Claim want you from the Quran I can promise you the Muslims I know dont follow it blindly or interpret it word for word.

Poor communities produce disenfranchised young men and this is dangerous in any community. Whether White Irish, or Muslim. They'll all find a cause to vent their self hate, and frustration.

That's not say we accept behaviour that is illegal, but the idea that any relgion should be persecuted is against the only ideal I really adhere to which is personal freedom and the idea of consent. Ie, people can choose to live in a style I might feel is improper if it is not illegal. If someone wants to do something I think is demeaning to them it's their choice.

 

#24 2014-08-27 02:55:48

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"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#25 2014-08-27 03:11:51

Bop
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Re: The Blight in Blighty

And that's you Top Terror run down for today!

 

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