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#26 2022-06-19 08:02:31

AFS
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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Sophie be blowed, I've just picked up, for the princely sum of £3.50, a pair of comfortable tan Trickers.  Same place I bought my £15 Aquascutum raincoat earlier in the year.
First pair of shoes I've bought in a charity shop in many years, those on offer generally being naffness personified with treble knobs on.

 

#27 2022-06-19 08:55:05

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

It looks as if Trickers shifted production from England to Italy at some point.
I wonder if The Shooman rates them at all.
The pair I bought recently were a slightly wide fitting.  The shape of my feet has changed since losing weight.  The pair I bought today for the price of a pint of London ale (probably not, at current prices) are a good deal better.  Comparable S/H pair on Ebay just touching £100.  In Kenya.

 

#28 2022-06-19 09:04:39

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Not the same company.

https://www.lovablebrogue.com/post/two-tricky-mistakes-that-people-make-when-buying-tricker-s


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#29 2022-06-19 09:06:52

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Now how did someone get away with that?

 

#30 2022-06-19 09:09:52

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

I've just had a look at that article.  Cheeky buggers.

 

#31 2022-06-19 09:12:13

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Happy to say, though, mine are the real deal.  I like Italian shoes very well, Astorflex in particular (all hail The Weejun) - and I loved my old desert boots to pieces.  But this I do not much approve of.

 

#32 2022-06-30 05:30:44

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

I was interested to see TRS rating Trickers above Alden.  I've bought two pairs recently and must say, the second pair, bought for £3.50, are, as Johnny Simons once said of my Clarks' chukka boots, 'bloody nice', with their Goodyear welt and everything.

 

#33 2022-07-04 03:34:51

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Interesting.  I wouldn’t have thought to rate trickers over Alden. Maybe depends upon years. 

I assume Alden has grown in sales since internet came into being and pushed them.  On other hand some of the brooks offerings must’ve moved a lot of shoes. 

Haven’t warmed to the Alden chukka which i own.  Quality is fantastic.  Maybe the Brit’s do better. 

For me unless I know exactly what i want and how it’ll fit, i have to buy from a brick and mortar store. 

That said:: convenience of internet is something that I’ve gotten used to.

Can’t imagine when I’ll be in London again but a visit to truckers will be a stop.  Do they have a store in Paris with complete collection? 

Shoos has been my downfall.  Not to Imelda Marcos level but the one thing i get for which I’m not deterred by price.


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#34 2022-07-04 03:40:14

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

The thrifted Trickers...  from the same unpromising-looking warehouse in the same depressing area as my Aquascutum raincoat.  Shoes and coat together - around $20.  I do not expect lightning to strike thrice, but it just goes to show.  I suppose it's the kind of place Shamrock used to nose around in all those years ago.  I also picked up Bill Evans 'Alone' for 30p.  My wife is quite addicted to this kind of bargain-hunting. 
I do not anticipate finding Alden.

 

#35 2024-12-07 13:07:21

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Just bagged some new black Sanders military apron split toe shoes made for Japan at low price at the bay. Very happy. Got them in burgundy before and maturing nicely after many years of wear.

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#36 2024-12-10 06:05:34

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Over the weekend, with slippery roads and leaves scattered all over the pavements, because they are no longer collected in broken Britain, I dug out my made in Northampton AS long wing 'stepney' brogues. They have the dainite soles and are the business. Only a handful of men wearing leather shoes in the pub of a Sunday lunchtime! I got the compliments all right but few there will be wearing leather shoes in the future. Alfred Sargent shoes went into liquidation in November with the loss of quite a few jobs. Another made in England company bites the dust. Can the decline in British industry be reversed? I doubt it


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#37 2024-12-10 06:20:47

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

"Alfred Sargent shoes went into liquidation in November" - wow, I didn't know this. I agree with the sentiment in your post.  Particularly for formal shoe companies, they need to transform into higher end casual shoes and also be able to sell into more traditional countries (China, Japan etc) or there simply isn't enough market for them any more. They'll increasingly end up owned by bigger companies they are a small part of, especially outside UK for their domestic audience.

The Sanders military shoes arrived this morning and are a thing of skill, care and wonder. I paid £140 for them, supposedly a second due to something cosmetic, but their quality is so high in these military shoes, I cannot see a single blemish. Mrs Unseen was particularly impressed. I already have them in the Burgundy/oxblood so after waiting probably a decade, it's great to finally get them in black at less than £300 and having to reimport them from Japan.

Abbots Shoes appear in my Google feed this week - it seems they are an ebay style reconditioner and reseller for good quality formal shoe brands (at near full price). They say reconditioner, but some of the soe soles look poor so check all the pictures. However I spotted a few interesting shoes in my size so worth a peruse:

https://abbotsshoes.com/

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#38 2024-12-10 12:49:41

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Alfred Sargent seemed to have been in a decline for a number of years, advertising  in the Sunday supplements is a sure sign you are on the slippery slope. So not surprised to hear they have gone.

Unseen - the Sanders ‘Military’ branding is a strange thing. A couple of years ago I bought some Sanders Military loafers. Black, penny style, horse bit with Dianite soles. A fabulous pair of shoes, but I not sure they were worn at mess functions.

 

#39 2024-12-10 12:51:24

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Yes I am unsure they are ever worn by the Japanese military. I just like the style and quality.

 

#40 2024-12-11 01:44:41

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Didn't Alfred Sargent make shoes for M&S at one time.

 

#41 2024-12-11 06:30:08

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Yes, in decline for a number of years. Then featured heavily in John Rushton Wimpole Street.

https://shoegazing.com/2024/10/24/news-the-sargent-factory-closed-again/

Rushton also took the remaining stock of great Little Venice shop  Martin-Stone when it closed years ago.


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#42 2024-12-11 10:20:28

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

A good few years ago I pitched some ideas to both Barker and Grenson. My previous employer has done work for Church and Cheaney.

I'd noticed how much money was suddenly being spent on so called designer footwear and thought there was an opportunity for British brands off the back of this.

I was shocked at how little they understood basic marketing.

Unfortunately, I think many traditional brands will die off as they're solely focused on manufacturing and lack little understanding about the mechanics of desire.

 

#43 2024-12-11 11:16:36

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

A good few years ago I pitched some ideas to both Barker and Grenson. My previous employer has done work for Church and Cheaney.
I'd noticed how much money was suddenly being spent on so called designer footwear and thought there was an opportunity for British brands off the back of this.
I was shocked at how little they understood basic marketing.
Unfortunately, I think many traditional brands will die off as they're solely focused on manufacturing and lack little understanding about the mechanics of desire.

When I collaborated on the Northampton and the Ivy League exhibit – launched in Northampton we did a whole series of shoots, the aim being to encourage the manufactures to up their game, work with us as a creative team etc, the following year Loake and Another I forget totally ripped off the work we had done. It also started the trend for doing factory shoots to show manufacturing and highlighting the workers involved in the crafting of fine footwear, all of it was my Creative Direction for the exhibit, we went to Trickers, The Church Bros, everyone, no interest.

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#44 2024-12-11 17:31:42

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

And there you have it….

Shortsighted manufacturers who would rather rip someone off than invest in their business.

You want them to be bastions of old world etiquette but in truth they’re families holding on by their fingertips to inherited businesses they don’t know what to do with.

The commercial equivalent of stately homes.

In close to 40 years of doing what I do they make for the worst businesses. They lack the entrepreneurial vision of their grandparents or the commercial skills of their parents.

 

#45 2024-12-13 02:21:13

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Re: Made in Britain - Northampton Shoes

Had my C&J Grassmere shoes on yesterday for first time since the pandemic. How the time flies! They were like warm butter on the feet all day, such a wonderful experience.

I remember that these were bought using the mail order forms I had to post to them back in 2017, then hope for the best.  They are only worn for big occasions at home or work since.

It was like the last days of the old era, no internet shopping experience and a personal phone call when they were despatched.

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