I remember, very vividly, A-M/GG/Toffeeman speaking of his struggle with the trench: even the 21, as worn by the Ivy Shop faces (for example). Right. I had a couple of trenchcoats about twenty-odd years ago; wouldn't wear one now. I do love my shabby old fly-fronted with the tartan lining, though, which I bought for 30£ about a dozen years ago and which Johnny Simons reckoned was a one-off from about 1967. I was once refused entry to a homeless shelter when wearing it - but that's another story. That damn check!
Now - Barbour. Is it really true that a certain type of American has taken to their waxed jackets? I can understand perfectly well why some on here (in the UK) wouldn't like them (too close to wearing a gilet for comfort?), yet, on Saturday, buying socks, I saw an ivory coloured fly-fronted in a sale - knocked down to around £125. But I'm a fat granddad now and even XL was tight in the sleeves. So, no sale.
I know this isn't exactly an original subject, but Barbour seem to be everywhere, like a rash, much as Fred Perry was a dozen or so years back.
Oh, and does anyone still favour Grenfell? I must admit, I became a little dubious.
A cream single breasted raincoat works with everything from a suit down to jeans and loafers. Whereas you can only get away with a trench in this day and age when worn with a suit (and tie obviously) or flannels, tweed and a tie. Either way shoes must be pretty decent too. Any more casual and to me the trench is the wrong choice. Purely my opinion of course.
My Grenfell trench is back in Blighty and hasn't been worn for years. My sb raincoat has accompanied me on my Latin American voyage and gets occasional use. I wasn't going to bring it but my tailor told me it's such an English item that on the occasional moments I need it (i.e. it's raining and I'm in a suit) it will make a strong impression. He was correct.
However generally when it's raining I just grab the trusty 60/40. Its elasticated sleeves and high neck certainly keep the cold out, whereas a raincoat without a scarf can be torture when there's a bitter wind.
Sensible, Yuca, very. I remain a tad suspicious of obvious country clobber. Too 'Young Farmer'.
Young farmer is one look I have never remotely aspired to. Nor has a Barbour ever appealed to me whatsoever, even many miles from the UK, where its sloane associations must be unknown.
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" I was once refused entry to a homeless shelter when wearing it - but that's another story. That damn check!" -- A Fine Sadness
This I'd like to hear.
I always liked a single fly trench. Double I had
(still have) bought maybe too many cinema / Bogart conniptions now.
I like Barbour -- had it forever. Before I saw them all over the upper east side. People wearing the little pin with it. When did that begin? 1990's?
I supposed they didn't; have the connotations they had in England so it was all good here. If if they had had some of the connotations. There was for ever and ever, a strong anglophile thing in many parts of the USA. Maybe that's still a thing. Dunno.
He should have worn a raincoat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7X6OJYH7DE
Horace, it was dark, like the coat, four in the afternoon in the middle of an English winter. I remember having on my Stetson cap, pulled fairly low over my eyes. The lady at the door said it's past four and you can't come in. Nothing in fact to do with the infamous check, this being a 1960s coat with a wool tartan lining. But I had already been allowed a piss at the pensioners' rate in Ashby-De-La-Zouche whilst wearing the same coat, a sad reflection of English clothing sensibilities but a source of merriment to my family.
I owned a couple of Barbour waxed jackets between 1995 and 2000 when we were living in a Grade Two listed cottage in a village and had a woodburner. They were bought from charity shops for about a tenner apiece. I suppose they were slightly on the shabby side and eventually got torn up by barbed wire.
I wasn't homeless, just delivering food parcels.
I have a couple of Barbour jackets/coats. Which I wear out walking the dog and walking through forests and fields. I have a couple of scarves as well. I like the Barbour tartan/check. Never had any Burberry stuff. My missus had a beautiful Burberry raincoat in the 70s. Don't personally like the Burberry check
Barbour scarves seem decent still.
Their old tweed style sports jackets were good stape items. I've got a very Ivy styled one from a decade ago, just before they stopped doing them at all. I may spring for a moss green one hanging around on the bay at some stage too. Once gone, these things aren't coming back.
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