Coming in December 2021:
https://www.reelartpress.com/catalog/edition/220/black-ivy-a-revolt-in-style
By Jason Jules with art direction and design by Graham Marsh
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Ah-ha. One of TwoRussellStreet's friends and a John Simons enthusiast with a capital E. A bonus in that Graham Marsh is involved. I used to sit in our chilly front room looking at the studies of chaps like Dexter Gordon in GMs books; wish I knew what happened to them. It was rather strange then communicating with TRS as a friend and collaborator of GM.
I think the black side of Ivy has been discussed with reference to jazz, to Miles Davis et al. possibly not so much about actors or non-jazz black chaps. Or am I misremembering? There is, I feel sure, a thread on here about the great Sidney Poitier. 'In The Heat Of The Night' is still a pretty good movie, better than the novel it's based on.
Some good snaps of Jason Jules to be seen here and there, often in a JS context. Or possibly a JJ context.
Has anything been done on the 'Ivy' (era?) style of the ladies? Aud, Grace Kelly, Barbara Bel Goodfella, Eve Marie Saint?
I seem to recall something on the Ivy Style site about a book on the 'Seven Sisters' style. I may be incorrect in recalling that.
There was a brief Black Ivy fashion trend in the USA about 5-10 years ago I recall. There were posts and pictures in this forum.
I also envisage the topics at Bop's HighWatersInHell blog will get covered too. Always worth putting that back up here (why aren't links working now?).
https://highwatersinhell.wordpress.com/
Links don't work, also if you try to quote any previous posts then your post won't show. And trying to read the forum on a phone is a labour of love best avoided.
FNB has promised that a forum upgrade is in the works.
I vaguely recall a Seven Sisters book too.
https://www.rizzoliusa.com/book/9780847842179
Seven Sisters Style: The All-American Preppy Look by Rebecca C. Tuite. Rizzoli books, 2014.
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While we're on the black theme, check out Roman Osin, Director Of Photography, of German-Nigerian descent. Very cool looking individual.
Chatted with Paul Simons about this today. We felt subtitle was unfortunate - A Revoltin Style... hang on...
Apparently a bash being planned at JS to launch the book. All the cats will be there in their tweed caps, spilling out onto the street, bottles of Becks in hand.
I suggested to Paul that Tony Nourmand should do a 'Jewish Ivy' book. No kiddin'. There's a massive story there to be told. Where's Frosty Mellor when you need him?
'Jewish Ivy'. Yes.
Then, of course, there was Melly's 'Revolt Into Style'. Imagining JJ to have a magpie mind, might the title be a borrowing?
I would suggest that strongish Italian lager they sell in Aldi would go will with a pizza slice.
The title of that book by Melly was ironic and intended, he was no fan of the Mods emerging. But the middle aged shouldn't feel the need to comment on the young. I used to know a fair few people who knew him when I used to hang around Soho while in London for work. The best of those people was Barry Cryer (TV/film comedy writer, sometimes performer, racconteur). I walked into a tiny comedy night at 100 Club where 'new' comedian Jim Tavare was doing his act with that huge double bass and Barry Cryer's first words as compere to me as someone just entered and he had never met were 'what are you having?'. He was in the chair on drinks all night, must of spent more than he got just making sure everyone had a good time. I made sure he didn't buy them all! Happy and innocent days.
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'Owning Up' is a fair bedtime read, giving a good view of that era of British jazz. Don't care much for the music, though. Jim Godbolt's books are also worth a look on an autumn evening.
This just hit my twitter:
https://www.modculture.co.uk/black-ivy-by-jason-jules-and-graham-marsh/
It is just another preview of the book.
I have cancelled my preorder, it will be looked through once or twice and just sit gathering dust. Then ultimately resold.
We know what will broadly be in there. So I just thought....I'm not really that bothered to get it.
Ho hum.
^ I'm inclined to agree. Maybe Graham Marsh and the saintly Mr. G said all there was to be said from a strictly UK/Russell Street point of view.
'I have cancelled my preorder, it will be looked through once or twice and just sit gathering dust. Then ultimately resold.'
I'm confused. How did your initial expectations change after reading the Mod Culture article?
Apologies. I conflated the two things in a post, that were separate.
It wasn't in any way related, I was just already talking about it.
It was more that I saw it announced early, 'yes of course, sounds great', pre-ordered it then thought 'I'm already clearing out dozens of expensive hardback books I've read one or twice - what new am I really going to get from this?'.
The book will be good I'm sure, it's just I'm not sure I actually need to own it. I'd enjoy flicking through it, but all the wider stuff than the clothes - yes important aboout the society changing, freedom of expression - it's just that I'm really just wanting to see the clothes worn.
I've got the Ronnie Scotts book sat behind me similarly with Graham Marsh involved and that was hugely disappointing. Flicked through a couple of times, nice pics. Done. I've now got that for sale too. It's just the idea of adding more coffee table type books that I'll end up not reading that has put me off I think. It's become an industry.
I can relate to that. I have so many books in boxes in a garage in Nottingham, so I won't be getting any more. Particularly ones that are large and mostly images.
However if I did get it I'm sure I'd love looking through it. Likewise for that Hollywood ivy book that I never invested in but I'm sure I would enjoy.
I managed to pick up £5.000 selling secondhand books. I'd specialized in certain areas: edged weapons and armour, vintage fantasy and science fiction, the occult, other stuff that nutters fancy from time to time. I bought 'The King In Yellow' for £12 on Amazon and sold it on Ebay for £95. I owned books that had belonged to M.R.James, Augustus John and others. Always guaranteed a sale: mostly in the US. I also had a good range of Silver Age comic books. They still sell well, as does anything from the James Warren stable.
I've had the Hollywood and Ivy Look book twice now. Plus, I've just put it up for sale - a second time. It's great to see, but I've done with it now. That was the beauty of Ivy Look book - it's small enough to just leave there.
I think selling a load of books in the last week has made me reflect. It's not the money, though that's nice. It's the room they take and the freedom of thinking 'that's it, done'.
I've got loads of books on Soul, clothes, Soho, British subculture and catalogues of music on various labels. They sell really well. I'm finding books on racks built under chairs that I'd forgotten I've got. I've got two copies of Paul Gorman's The Look sat one on the other! (One has the fully Kevin Rowland article, one doesn't). So one is for sale...
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AFS - intriguing, I also made a load off ghost/gothic fiction. Those Tartarus reissues of Arthur Machen go for a load. I bought everything they published for years and then found I was sat on a goldmine. Which was handy at the time as I'd spent a load of money on.....er..... music, books, DVDs etc which I was then selling. (I need to think that through again!!!!!).
I also bought a horror film poster book in hardback secondhand for let's say £20 that I sold for hundreds and hundreds years later. Unbelieveable.
I'm selling books now for £30-£40 easily as others list at £80. Once out of print, if in any way popular culture related - they fly out.
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Machen is a terrific seller. So are Howard and Lovecraft. I also invested in signed editions. Probably the best deal I did years ago was on a first edition of 'The Spy Who Came In From The Cold'. Bought it for £30 in the morning, sold it for £75 by lunchtime. A courier collected it, bringing the cash. You can get your fingers burned, though.
A dealer advised me years ago what to look out for: anything on the Titanic, boxing, hunting, spiders, snakes - and what to avoid - including anything on the Royal Family.