Tim - with a heavy heart I'm with you 100%. The 'new' shop is nice, and worthy of our support, but I feel it is too focused on marketing and the internet, and the tedious mod connection, and lacks that magical extra dimension of the old shops. It also lacks John, Ken and Jeff, all characters from a different era.
I'm still a fan of the shop although I visit rarely. It's the only clothes shop in London where I feel I could go and get fully kitted out. JS has always seemed slightly pricey to me going right back to the Squire shop days when I would maybe only buy a pair of Sox from them. I also think the 'mod' connection is a bit tedious but there is still something special about the place. I've never got into conversation with any of the staff except for JS and it doesn't bother me who is working in the shop. The last few visits I've been the only customer! Us older guys maybe have more money to spend but we won't be around for ever (and nor will JS) so to continue, the shop has to appeal to younger guys.
I do like what they are doing with their own brand made in London clothes.
The latest shirts are good. My missus complimented me on my latest purchase and then surprised me by saying 'is J Simons still in business?' . She obviously hasn't been paying attention to my spending habits recently.
I might have to revise my opinion of the shop after the latest FB postings of a dodgy pair of paraboots and a tan coloured gillet being worn in the doorway picture.
I've just noticed they have the gillet on sale for £435!
That's ridiculous Robbie, it appears JS prices are on a comparison with Clutch Cafe.
Uniqlo ultra light down gilet is a very warm garment and packs down into its own cover. £39. Thoroughly recommended. Great for travel and round the house.
That said, I don’t like the look of gilets and prefer to wear other garments out and about.
It's going to be interesting in the current economic climate to see if they shift the higher priced items, the winter sale might be interesting, the new own brand overcoats should be landing soon I guess,
Runninggeez- I'm not familiar with Clutch Cafe so I checked it out and I see your point on price comparison. I am familiar with Uniqlo and I have a couple of the duck down jackets which as Kingy says pack into a very small own cover and are useful for travel.
Stax- The winter sale should be interesting but I don't have you down as a gilet wearer.
You could buy a reasonable coat with actual sleeves on it for £435.
Another vote for the Uniqlo packaway gilet - indispensable kit for the year round flaneur.
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Robbie- you’re right, I’ve never owned a gilet, however a Uniqlo gilet might be worth considering for an additional layer for winter dog walking,
I've got a couple of gillets and a packable down jacket. They're probably warm enough on their own, but I always end up covering them up with a better looking jacket/coat.
I'm not really qualified to join in the JS conversation, having never been to Chiltern St, and only once going into the old Covent Garden shop. But from a distance it does seem that their prices are increasingly out of step with reality. I've always found it a bit odd that some of their clobber (e.g. Failsworth caps, B.D Baggies) has been pretty readily available and a lot less expensive elswhere. Even taking into account bricks and mortar overheads? I'm not surprised those £995 Florsheims are still hanging around.
Robbie B - ‘ ‘The Autumn Ivy jackets now on the JS website. At £495 I might pass.‘
I have to say that these look excellent and the cloths they use are first rate. The price/value is debatable, but I guess if you are in need of a tweed jacket, you try on one of theirs and it really lights your fire then the price could be acceptable. Personally, I just got my winter stuff out and I’m already well sorted for tweed jackets, They are mainly Brooks and J Press that I have acquired over the years, superb quality that will see me out. So I’ll pass as well.
The changing of the seasons is definitely one of the best aspects of an interest in clothes. Imagine living somewhere where you just wore madras jackets all year round? Ask me in January and I’d probably be willing to give it a try!
In the north west of England we are still calling gilets body warmers.
And, yep, that price for them is bonkers.
I think the Florsheims are my size. £108m jackport on the Euromillions lottery this Friday - here's hoping...
The one item I struggle to find in the Ivy style is jackets.
I was a big fan of Keydge on many levels - cut, comfort and fabrics.
Since their demise the Simons version has been a worthy successor. The first ones were poor in terms of fit but they have improved with each season.
Last season I purchased the green Harris Tweed and was hoping these would return this season with more options.They are great jackets but really expensive for what they are construction wise.
I do not begrudge them making a profit and appreciate that with smaller production runs you don’t achieve economies of scale but when compared with some other options out there the price isn’t attractive.
The gilets are far too expensive. I have a good quality LL Bean one that was much cheaper even after tax and shipping.
Alvie - 'The one item I struggle to find in the Ivy style is jackets'
Same here. I've got a wardrobe full of 'nearly, but not quites'. Certainly nothing that ticks every box. Although recently I have started to enjoy wearing the ones I've got, in a kind of less Ivy, more British/European 'mid century' way.
I'm just not in the market for a £500 new unconstructed jacket. And probably not a fairly priced used one.
I have just taken delivery of a lovely blue cord shirt. ideal for Autumn but still too warm in Brum to wear yet.
It's much nicer than their previous version from about 5 years ago - much softer cord, the colour is more navy than the previous midnight and the fit is slightly roomier. (ideal for us lovers of a salt beef sandwich)
I wish it had the Press style pocket flap though.
It will be worn in the Bill Evan style with a grey tweed Keydge and a smile.
Overcoats have been restocked, I’m tempted but will wait till I come back from 10 days of late summer sun in Portugal,
The John Simons overcoat I have is superb.
I asked them to make a longer version in a black watch tartan cloth they had.
As usual they were very accommodating although surprised that I wanted a long version.
Although not the thickest coat I own it is definitely one of the most elegant
Rancourt bit loafers, not a fan of this style of loafer myself, ( are they Ivy ?), but they look good,
The Harris Tweed Atomic check overcoat pictured on the girl in the doorway looked good. It would suit my missus as well but at £795 I'm not going to suggest it to her. She recently bought thick soled Chelsea boots similar to the girl in the doorway at no. 46 (without the stack heel) and in black and they look great on her
^Stax, I'm a bit like you on the subject of bit loafers. Not sure if I would want them but they do look superb. I would like to see them in the flesh before making a decision.
My concerns are also around price. Bit loafers would probably run as a second choice compared to beef rolls or pennies so could I justify the price for something that only occasionally I would wear,
Last year Crocketts launched a lovely bit loafer that is Goodyear welted and made of calf. Probably marginally more expensive than the Rancourt but more likely better made.
I'm not a fan of bit loafers. Too many other types of shoe I like more.
I've never considered them Ivy but interestingly my younger brother and his sons wear them and they think they are Ivy and they are surprised at my Meh reaction.
I'm currently toying with fishing my fathers Gucci briefcase out of the attic, wonder if I can exchange it for copious amounts of store credit!
Tim - I just see the briefcase online- £950 , gulp..... get the loft ladders out !
Not related but Interestingly ladies Paraboots new in @ CS,