Just to elaborate a little on SBs Van Heusen thread (which would almost certainly have gained more traction in years gone by), plus some observations by Yuca on Ray's shirts in 'Hill Street Blues', I find myself looking at shirt collars more than almost anything else.
Sometimes - and it may be just my imagination - collars seem to roll almost by accident. As though they've had a think about it and it seems a good idea. Then there's the collar that's a different colour to the rest of the shirt. Reserved for corrupt policemen and slimy lawyers.
I do think young David Schwimmer had a nice look in 'NYPD Blue'. A kind of thoughtful Jewish preppie?
But mostly the collars I'm seeing are awful. Just like in 'Mad Men'.
The last few years of shirt collars in America have been the worst; everyone is doing that stingy, shortened shirt collar that looks like a Nehru with a button hot-glued on. They remind me of an 1980’s style; they make one’s neck and head seem to pop enormously into view above; like the baby in Eraserhead.
Kamakura, for all its problems, engineered a handsome collar.
^Jdemy, I think many would agree about Kamakura. I'm surprised Jake, here in the UK, isn't getting more forum publicity. Do you have a view on Mercer?
Jake? I’d like to know more about Jake. As for Mercer- I have one experience. They made a shirt for me and I like it fine. It wasn’t Oxford Cloth- I went with something lighter. I’d use them again- and if my 15 or so white Maker shirts wear out, I’ll maybe have them make up some OCBD’s in the future. I loved their pleasant, homey service. I liked the collar roll. They do NOT have (nor aspire to have) Kamakura’s MTM precision. Kamakura made some shirts for me that were like machines. I also didn’t think a shirt at that price should have a label that seemed to have been dyed with the shirt- I ordered a blue shirt and the label was a wishy-washy blue too. The buttons and button holes were sloppy. In the end, I’m glad they exist.
Jake has a website and I think several of our members have ordered shirts and seem highly satisfied with them, just as with their Mercer purchases. Fifteen white Makers? I thought I was doing well with two!
I’m in NY. It’s easier to find them. Also- I am able to wear a variety of sleeve lengths - I have never had my sleeves rolled down and buttoned in my life- so there are more for me to choose from, maybe? I once argued that Kamakura was the new evolution of OCBD’s, blah blah blah. Nope. Makers. Maybe I’m kidding myself, but as old as I get, when I put on a Makers I feel like I look like ‘myself’. And somewhere in that is the reason I like the whole style of clothing, too.
The last Makers I bought is a joy to behold and has not yet been worn. It came from a very good - indeed, excellent - American seller - difficult to believe it's ever been worn. They are superlative. I want to say to people, Look, this is a Brooks shirt. Worth the cash, worth the wait.