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#1 2022-06-23 02:59:41
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'Alan Paine England'
Is this a mean trick, intended only to deceive?
I suppose I ought to be careful how I phrase this but simply banging 'England' onto a label means nothing at all, does it? It isn't synonymous with 'Made In England'. Is it?
Go back a great many years on 'Talk Ivy' and Jimmy mentioned a particular Alan Paine sweater favoured by Ian Strachan at The Ivy Shop. 'Pure quality' I think is the way Jimmy put it.
Apparently stacks of it went for export. I've still got a cashmere v-neck that might well be from the 1960s.
So when was the quality allowed to decline?
It's interesting, when scouting on Ebay, to examine their labels.
#2 2022-06-23 03:08:34
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Re: 'Alan Paine England'
Not to put too fine a point on it, the new stuff looks to be, plainly and simply, dull.
Is it what's on offer at Chiltern Street?
#3 2022-06-23 13:57:08
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Re: 'Alan Paine England'
The AP stuff is good.
They do a lovely silk, cotton, cashmere mix that is very comfortable. Look at the navy long sleeve polo.
Also, in winter there is a heavy wool crew neck. JS stocked it in navy and I can't remember why I didn't buy it.
I'm sure some of the Press knits are made by them.
#5 2022-06-23 14:03:17
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Re: 'Alan Paine England'
I might favour a navy (or olive) L/S polo if 100 per cent cotton and definitely made in the UK. Not otherwise.
#6 2022-07-04 03:51:46
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Re: 'Alan Paine England'
Remember Alan Paine as well. V-neck esp
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#7 2022-07-04 04:15:57
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Re: 'Alan Paine England'
I'm wearing a grey Alan Paine cashmere v-neck at this very moment. I bought two on Ebay Com. in 2009 - the other was in navy and is long gone. I guess they were the 'For Export' items that Stax has mentioned. 'Whalings' (of Detroit and Birmingham, Alabama - yes?). It's virtually in tatters, like the L.L.Bean cardigan I finally binned after ten years of regular wear: holed, patched, darned, holed again.
#8 2022-07-04 04:47:41
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Re: 'Alan Paine England'
I used to buy Alan Paine jumpers (made in England) from the Squire shop and good quality I seem to remember. 'Alan Paine England' when not made in England winds me up.
'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.
#9 2022-07-04 05:05:41
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Re: 'Alan Paine England'
It's that accursed 'Heritage' thing: sloppy and insulting.
Probably the best (often most expensive) Paine is found in the USA: the 'vintage' stuff, often with an interesting collegiate label.