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#1 2024-05-23 04:21:31
- Kingston1an
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Dick van Dyke and suits
He always looked sharp on the telly.
But he did not wear sack suits. His were more tailored. The rat pack and him probably had more influence than sack suits. Shiny mohair also became a very big deal.
https://www.bondsuits.com/the-stylish-beverly-hills-suits-of-the-dick-van-dyke-show/
"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."
#2 2024-05-23 04:29:55
- Kingston1an
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Re: Dick van Dyke and suits
Influence in the UK I should have said.
Sacks never really took hold apart from a few jazz types.
"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."
#3 2024-05-23 06:47:56
- colin
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Re: Dick van Dyke and suits
I suspect the power of social media and recent uptake of the ivy look, playing out in terms of 3/2 lapels on high street clothing, demonstrates how the ivy look, or at least aspects of tailoring, are probably more prominent now than ever before. Of course, whether those contemporary takes are 'correct' is up for debate. But there's definitely more natural shoulder options around these days, circulating on Instagram menswear stuff and the like, which isn't all bad news
#4 2024-05-24 05:22:22
- FlatSixC
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Re: Dick van Dyke and suits
I had an interesting chat yesterday with someone on here about how history gets subtly rewritten. Nostalgia plays a part, the desire to think that things were the way we would have liked them to be. Plus, when it comes to a commodity like clothing, marketing comes into play.
Certain items of clothing have become held up as being ‘Ivy’, within the clothing enthusiasts online world, when it’s probably doubtful that they ever were.
The more I go on the more I think that, outside of the American North East wealthy set, Ivy was just a fashion phase in the US much as it was in Europe. But we like to think that every man and his dog was wearing it during the ‘boom years’.
As the Hollywood and the Ivy Look book shows, the style became very popular among the showbiz crowd … for a while. It is possible to find photos of almost any well know actor of the time wearing Ivy clothing, but only a few notables stuck with it
I remember one of the Dick Press articles about how one day Sinatra came into the Madison Ave store and kitted himself out with Ivy clothing, top to toe. As the singer and his circle identified more and more with the look, Dick became part of his entourage even going on tour dates and looking after the main man’s clothing needs. This went on for a year or so until one day he was discreetly informed that his services were no longer required. Sinatra had moved on to another look.