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#1 2006-05-15 12:15:45

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Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I have an automatically negative reaction to monograms placed in certain spots on a shirt. I think the cuff and collar are the two places that make me reflexively start wondering about the wearer's background and stop listening about what he has to say. The type of reaction is a little bit like the shirts you see with the strips of the body fabric on the edges of the collar and/or cuffs.

I dont get a lot of monograms, I think they are a waste of money, but I dont mind the small handmade sort, even just a single initial (perhaps with your coronet above it?)in indigo on every shirt color, except for blue, when for some reason, white appeals to me.

Wild shirts with monograms can bury the effect.


Im not entirely sure myself why I react negatively to people who wear their monograms in flashy places and positively when it is placed in a different spot. All I know is that when I see certain things done poorly, it immediately triggers a question about the person's background, authority, intelligence, sincerity, trustworthiness, cleanlinss and it's harder for them to convince me of anything wholesome or meritorious. Likewise, when people do things immaculately (not necessarily too precise), I consider them better, like me. But it is easier to fall from grace than to regain it.

It is interesting to note, that if someone is dressed to "costumey" or too well, too stiff and perfect it likewise makes think the person is insincere and trying too hard. I wish I had a photo of one such extremely overdressed person to explain it better. Suffice to say, if I were conducting a meeting and someone walked into it in a "stroller" even if it were beautiful quality and immaculately finished, and given that Im a dandy in my own right, I would think there was something dead wrong with them. Although if it were done in very up to date versions of the materials for the jacket, pants, shirt and tie, i would think more highly of it than if it looked like it were taken out of mothballs from 1951.

 

#2 2006-05-15 15:15:22

Will
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I get a monogram inside my shirt collars instead of the maker's label, for the convenience of the laundry.

I dislike maker's labels in general and don't have them on my suits either.

Haven't thought to do something about my shoes until now though. Another detail to obsess about.


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#3 2006-05-15 15:22:38

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#4 2006-05-15 15:59:34

Get Smart
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I get my Jantzen shirts monogrammed inside the yoke since they offer it for free....otherwise I dont see any need for it.

I saw pics on SF of a shoe were they apparently monogrammed on the heel area.  not sure if I liked that or not

 

#5 2006-05-15 20:42:23

Marc Grayson
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I was advised by a very wise man of the pointlessness of monograms: The owner of the shirt already knows his or her initials and others don't really give a damn.

Marc


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#6 2006-05-15 20:58:04

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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

Sometimes, a well-done monogram on the suit lining, right below the breast pocket is very beautiful


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#7 2006-05-15 21:50:52

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#8 2006-05-15 23:58:40

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#9 2006-05-16 01:32:48

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#10 2006-05-16 04:44:28

Ted
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I love monograms, in fact all my solid color shirts are monogramed just below and left of the shirt pocket.  My bathrobe and boxers are also monogramed - gift from the GF.  I also have one of those engine-turned silver belt buckles that is monogramed - but with my dad's initials - it's inherited.

 

#11 2006-05-16 23:07:47

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#12 2006-05-17 00:20:22

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#13 2006-05-17 04:53:04

padawan
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#14 2006-05-18 08:28:46

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#15 2006-05-23 09:09:24

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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

If one considers a monogram, placement is the key. No collars, no cuffs, in fact if it is readily apparent then it has not been well placed. As mentioned above, I already know my initials, and also mentioned above, it can be fun.  None of my shirts are monogramed now, but I used to have discreet hand-done single initials sewn just below the belt line. Occasionally they'd work their way out but that was usally when I was out for drinks afterwards.

 

#16 2006-05-23 09:40:00

gng8
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I find visible monograms "affected" and won't wear them.

 

#17 2006-09-15 14:24:42

Super 150s
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

What do people think of mongramming the shirt cuff?

 

#18 2006-09-15 23:25:01

Horace
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

Last edited by Horace (2006-09-15 23:25:55)


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#19 2006-09-16 08:03:05

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#20 2008-08-15 08:12:24

maximus
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?


I shall commission a suit:

So let it Bespoken
So let it be done!

 

#21 2008-08-15 11:16:00

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#22 2008-08-16 01:28:18

Horace
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I think the ol' line about getting the monograms done on the inside collar is disingenuous.  There's just something phony about it.  As if though you get nice shirts, you're plagued by an inept laundry guy.  Which is probably an easy sitch to find yourself in....


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#23 2008-08-16 03:29:58

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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

How about monogrammed handkerchiefs?

People also used to get their watches and assorted precious metal utilitarian objects monogrammed. One often seens vintage solid gold pencils, pocket-knives, pens with someone's monogram on them. In contrast to modern mongramming, these old things were obviously very well-done, not that scratching that passes today.


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#24 2008-08-17 12:57:12

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#25 2008-08-23 11:31:29

John Rotten
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Re: Monogramming, Dandy equivalent of getting inked?

I get a sudden and overwhelming urge to vomit when I see monograms on the body of a shirt.  Cuff?  OK.

 

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