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#1 2006-05-23 00:11:32
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What values are these?
Does anyone know what old Tom means here? I am at a loss. Perhaps Vaclav can help me. Something about enduring values. What they are and how we're supposed to extract them from this sentimental citation, I know not.
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53877
""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#2 2006-05-23 02:21:11
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Re: What values are these?
Can't type anymore
am blinded by tears
m.
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#3 2006-05-23 02:52:34
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#4 2006-05-23 02:52:56
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Re: What values are these?
Hmmmm -
Maybe it's a coded message to the troops?
The Lord of the Rings must be plotting something...
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#5 2006-05-23 02:54:20
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#6 2006-05-23 03:00:25
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" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#7 2006-05-23 15:34:10
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Re: What values are these?
"I don't care who went to prep school and grew up with the New Haven tailors, as I did. "
If he doesn't care to hear this, why does he say the same?
Sarcasm perhaps, but for other not.
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#9 2006-05-23 18:59:12
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Re: What values are these?
Not to knock you, Coolidge -- or Tom22 -- but I think the gripe about AAAC is not so much its obsession with social history as much as with many of its contributors' fantasies of social climbing.
And when I was at your alma mater, C, there was no Prom. Whether a recreation is actually part of a tradition, I do not know, but it certainly indicates an increasingly (and perhaps depressingly) normative campus.
Personally, I appreciated the minor-key of the post's prose, but ultimately it would be incomperehensible to anyone who tried to actually understand it.
#11 2006-05-23 19:30:32
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#12 2006-05-23 20:04:28
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New president? I thought you were a New Haven man, Coolidge. Sorry if I mistook you for someone else.
I was involved in Burkean politics in New Haven myself, but I must say that the aggressively anti-mainstream nature of the place in the 80s kept us all eccentrics. And those eccentricities -- be they liberal or conservative -- kept the place always interesting. I find the current undergrads to be very conformist, I regret to report. Conservative in the most boring way.
#13 2006-05-23 20:15:09
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Personally, I feel that despite people's manifestoes of the "avant-garde", they are all conformist in their own individual cliches. From the hippies to the so-called artists, they are all sycophantic to convention.
Jukebox Babe
#16 2006-05-24 06:50:09
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Yes, the great curse of modern life is our "right to be different" in exactly the same way.
It's like that scene in Life of Brian:
Brian: You're all individuals!
Huge throng in unison: Yes, we're all individuals.
Sole voice: I'm not.
#17 2006-05-24 07:07:50
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Lately I've been thinking about becoming 'A Trad'.
I have read all about them on the interweb...
I'm still a little green about who's shirts they wear, but as soon as I've got it all figured out I'm going to Be One.
They seem like such good folk to be. They ride in carriages and never put their knives in their mouths. Some even have a suit and not just for market day.
Why shouldn't I be a swell just like the hoity folk?
I'm starting today by sticking some acorns on my shoes so they look like tassels...
M.
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#19 2006-05-24 10:15:10
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" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#20 2006-05-24 10:41:27
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Re: What values are these?
Now I'm really torn.
Ted is so nice too.
Oy!
Miles
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#21 2006-05-24 10:45:39
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" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#22 2006-05-24 10:58:11
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See what fun Ted is?
Go Ted!
Smiley
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#23 2006-05-24 11:04:06
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" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#24 2006-05-24 11:49:37
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Re: What values are these?
No, no.
Exercise and moderate habits will see you through, I believe.
I just decided to go another way.
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#25 2006-05-25 06:20:48
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Miles here, chipping in.
You can't play on forums and be a sensitive soul.
If you posture in public someone is always going to point & laugh.
For my part I'll stop laughing when things stop being funny.
M.
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.