Very nice jacket on Charlie.
Rings a bell. I'd quote the passage if I had my copy with me...
Toffeeman will know it.
Are you still on the black cabs or was that another feller?
It's been too long.
Our cab driving Ivy associate, still a passionate devotee of the look, ventures out onto the London highways every day in beautiful Oxford BDs, tweed waistcoat, Bill's Khakis and suede loafers. What a beautiful thought. And why do I always end up with the racist bore who won't shut up all the way from W1 to N16?
LOL!
When has Mick ever not been funny?
I remember that Ian at the Ivy Shop said that 'The Auberge' (sp? Too lazy to check...) just down The Hill in Richmond was very quickly a very un-sharp place to go when it filled out with 'Stones' types...
Ahhh, London Ivy - Always moving on!
Very, very nice, Tony.
Toffeeman: Quite a lot of cabbies are into Americana - That's why so many carry baseball bats!
For London Cabbies it's called learning 'The Knowledge', Brother H.
It's kinda how we all learn about the Trad/Ivy League style over here too...
There's an apprenticeship to be served learning 'The Look' before we even start to think that we know anything about it.
This year marks the 28th year that I've been a student and I still wouldn't dream of passing myself off as an expert.
Practice makes perfect.
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Information to date says an emphatic 'No'.
Italy post WWII took US influences & used them but the national mood was one of wanting to be Italian with a capital 'I' after all they had been through (and they'd been through a lot). They wanted their own identity.
I can respect that.
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"We used to try to dress like the GIs... We used to get our band uniforms from Austins because they had the Ivy League look which was a forerunner of the Mod scene. My haircut at the time was the John F. Kennedy thing. And a lot of the GIs would have the razor partings. It was a great scene."
The Great Georgie Fame.
http://georgiefame.absoluteelsewhere.net/
"The thing about being a Mod was that you had to be aware of very specific things. One of them was a rather east-coast American waspishness. A sort of short-haired, checked shirt, Levi's, desert boots, interest in jazz, interest in dancing."
The Great Patrick Uden.
https://sheffdocfest.com/speakers/view/70
Pulled from Paolo Hewitt's 'Soul Stylists' again.
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More from England in the early 60's:
"The other thing you have to realise is how cool John F. Kennedy and his wife Jackie were considered to be. You look at our politicians. We had people like Macmillan or Eden, look at the way they dressed. Whereas you looked at JFK, he had the button-down shirt, the college boy haircut, he looked really cool and what he wore really accelerated that Ivy League look, a bit of which had come through the Jazz scene."
The great Alfredo Marcantonio.
http://www.amazon.com/Well-Written-Red-Alfredo-Marcantonio/dp/0953703231
http://www.harriman-house.com/pages/authors.htm?Index=9517&Author=Alfredo_Marcantonio
http://www.thefirefliesride.com/riders/alfredo_marcantonio.html (AM in a BD!)
http://www.lecturelist.org/content/view_lecture/3063
Again pulled from 'Soul Stylists'.
nice to see so many references from The Soul Stylists....it's a great book that really goes into the origins of youth cults and their link with ivy style. You've inspired me to dust it off and re-read it again!
thanks TL...I'm actually working on something based on 50s ivy undarted natural shoulder sack suit right now, albeit a fitted one as some of us actually have a taper to our bodies and arent built like a sack of potatoes. My first offering was more of a continental-Roman cut suit that's more typical of "modernists" but this one goes into the archives to try and offer something more original to the first wave of jazz-modernists.
Yes, The Look is a GREAT book, labor of love is a good way to put it.
Looking forward to seeing that.
A sack that's not a 'sack', eh?
Sounds good to me.