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#1 2008-07-02 14:51:20
- longwing
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Traditional American Style: This Is It?
Dude, you're never going to kick trad's ass with a faux forum.
#2 2008-07-02 15:36:59
- Tony Ventresca
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Re: Traditional American Style: This Is It?
Dude, why do you prefer a Japanese word which means something completely different?
#3 2008-07-02 16:03:11
- longwing
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Re: Traditional American Style: This Is It?
Hey TV. I've seen some Japanese trad websites and caught glimpses of Japanese trad magazines. It doesn't seem that different to me. More similarities than differences I think.
Anyway, I'm ready to see old RS take a stand. Put a stake in the ground. Put himself out there. Call it what you will. His time has come. He must go forth. Hell, he invented all this. Remember?
No longer can he be the puppeteer. His fans won't stand for it. No more sock puppets. We want the man himself. Spotlight. Center stage. Nothing else will do.
#5 2008-07-02 17:42:16
- longwing
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Re: Traditional American Style: This Is It?
TV, One reason I like the trad is that I'm pretty much pro curriculum. Not that I think it should be important to Ivy, but I like it for trad. Trad as a narrowly defined code is alright with me. In fact, I think that the failing of the trad forum has not been the curriculum but the failure to enforce the curriculum. Collegiality overtook style and you know the rest.
But I think that a trad fan can be an ivy fan, even if it's not the other way around. When I join you guys, if there's ever anything to join, I'll respect that Ivy is big and Trad is small. As long as I get my lapel pin.
#6 2008-07-03 00:40:20
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
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Re: Traditional American Style: This Is It?
Hi LW,
Still sorting out the technical stuff. I'll keep you posted. This forum idea is only days old remember & only grew out of a series of email / PM chats with like minded enthusiasts.
Just what is it that you're expecting? Because I doubt you're going to get it from me I'm afraid. I'm just looking for a Traditional American style forum - Just a place on the Net. to discuss Ivy style (and Preppy & WASP too, why not?) without the restrictions of AAAT's 'Trad'. If you like 'Trad' then you stay with it, Brother. I'm not looking to kick Trad's ass, I'm looking to reclaim my wardrobe from its made-up construct.
Any forum that might happen from me will only be as good as its posters. I'll be on there and anybody else who wants to will be too. It will be a small organic thing. I'm not looking to contrive anything larger like I did with 'Trad'. 'Trad' was 'make it big then make it smart' - But I got tired of waiting & the raw material I used (the unstoppable Harris) was too flawed for the 'making it smart' part to be a smooth process. Plus the moderation on Andy's site was always getting under my feet. This proposed new forum will be small and will look for quality of ideas and freedom of thought. There will be no flawed 'curriculum' and no made-up provenances for new names given to the old American Traditional style. If people want all that then they can go to Andy's 'Trad' site.
Tony - I'm very sensitive to what you're saying & I'm very keen to get Traditional American off 'The Wardrobe' ASAP so that life can get back to normal. The Wardrobe isn't an Ivy style forum & I respect that. I am shamelessly pimping the Traditional American idea here in the short term I acknowledge & FNB is being very tolerant in letting me do this.
All I intend to do is try to provide a space for people who like Traditional American style but who find the recently made-up construct of 'Trad' too restrictive for them.
A blank page to fill as they will without any made-up restrictions that have no basis in reality.
The real American Tradition is what interests me. If it doesn't interest you then I have nothing to offer you.
Best -
#7 2009-03-07 02:02:02
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Traditional American Style: This Is It?
Yes - This is it!
#8 2009-03-09 03:31:07
- Horace
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Re: Traditional American Style: This Is It?
""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#9 2009-03-09 06:50:41
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: Traditional American Style: This Is It?
... A kid who's talents would be of use again right now (I'm guessing he's grown up a bit since then)!
... Why didn't 'Trad' get smarter over time? Why didn't my plan work?
You can make something populist or you can make it good it would seem. That's not quite the world I'd hoped for...
Now with Chensvold I see the full turn of the circle and from Ralph Lauren it all now returns to Ralph Lauren.
And it makes me smile, yeah it makes me smile...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WxDrVUrSvI
J.