Here you go. Made on the old Champion heavyweight, reverse weave pattern model. Best of all, they are emblem and logo free.
http://www.sweatshirtsusa.com/
Cheap sweatshirts at C&A right now, too... grey and navy... not exactly "the right" ones, they're 65% poly/ 35% cotton, which is stressing the SWEAT part a little bit, but if you're on a budget...
To everyone who posted in this thread:
What is so hard about this? It's a fucking sweatshirt. The basic design has not changed in a long time. I see them in stores all the time at whatever price point you may want.
This is like debating underwear, or socks.
You are overthinking this.
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I hope it's not a matter as trivial as underwear or socks.
Over here in the colonies the Champion sweatshirt set a standard. 100% heavy cotton, wears like iron, and lasts for years. Perhaps printed with your school's name in an ink that fades with time. Likely to find one from your old man or older siblings. In short, many imitations abound, but the real deal is hard to find.
The look? I call it Slob Americana: beat up heavy grey sweatshirt, white t-shirt, jeans, and tennis shoes.
Champion sold directly to schools, not through sporting goods dealers. It wasn't unusual to see a huge shipment arriving at school at the beginning of the year with sweats, t-shirts, etc. destined for p.e. classes and what not. It also held a small monopoly on the items sold through the college bookstore. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the sweats and t-shirts you see in the Take Ivy photos were produced by Champion.
Champion got addicted to marketing in the 90's and started to put its logo all over the product. I posted the link after finding a place that sold the same model sans decoration.
Hey BT-"what is so hard about this" is exactly the point----if you could just walk in a store and buy a regular sweatshirt that looked half decent, this thread wouldn't exist. It was possible to do so until fairly recently. It shouldn't be hard. But it is.
Socks. Hmm. I don't know if you can buy a pair of white crew socks anymore. They all have a logo or a grey heel or toe. I know a guy who went on a quest for old-fashioned athletic socks with the 2 or 3 stripes on them and couldn't find them anywhere. The more basic and classic the item of clothing is, the harder it is to find.
was going to try one of these, sounds like small is the way to go....how long is the medium?
the fotl heavyweight isn't as bad as my 1st impression. the body is a good size but the arms are gargantuan.
I'll measure it up once I've washed it, but actually the fit grew on me. The arms are pretty big, especially around the armholes there's a lot of bulk. Otherwise nicely made though - I'm waiting for two cobblecloth ones which should reach me by Tuesday, so I might do a side-by-side comparison.
Edit: Actually, I'm also waiting for a second one of the kellsport ones, maybe I just received a strange one on the first try. As for the lenght, I haven
't measured it yet, but it feels considerably longer in the front than in the back (maybe American belly cut?), which I find pretty odd. Also, the collar rides up higher in the front than in the back, at least on me. Kinda makes me wonder whether they mistakenly sewed in the care label on the wrong side, i.e. on the front rather than the back, thus making me wear it the wrong way round? Dunno. It's fine for chores and bumming around the house, but definitely not a flattering fit or anything of that sort. probably what the folks over at Buzz Rickson refer to as Girls Ball games mom cut ;-)
By the way, does anybody have one of the Buzz Rickson sweatshirts? How's the fit?`Anybody care to measure up a medium, or say anything about their general sizing, i.e. true to size or more on the modern day vanity sizing side of things?
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A bump for this thread to celebrate our Brother Bill Stephenson (Matt).
The post which kicks off this thread was rejected & savaged by Chensvold back in the day, as was Bill himself (and I still have the old emails to prove it Chris...). Glad to see that Chens now appreciates Bill.
Although the idea that Chens needs Bill to give himself some credibility is a delightful one to play with.
And who, who, who planted the Boston Cracked Shoe look into the consciousness of the online menswear world?
You'll find the author 'Banned' if you go looking for him!
As you were -
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Who makes the best sweatshirt now? Does anyone still make them in the USA?
TM
I splurged on a Buzz Rickson number a few years back - terrific sweatshirt but crazy money............what was I thinking.......
^ I am still very much enjoying my Japanese "Real McCoy" every time I wear it. I've already worn it hundreds of hours. Eventually every hour of joy, or at least comfort, will have cost me just a few cents.
A couple of years back I picked up two plain grey sweatshirts, blends at the KMart at Astor Place for about $8 each.
Maker is Joe Boxer I think? I cut out the tags and sewed in my embroidered initials tag...
Aren't Buzz Rickson's woven on original mid century looms imported to Japan from the old US? Would you look at that marl.
And please they do! I wish I could afford one of those sweatshirts. For the time being I'll be content with my uniqlo one... being a sweatshirt.
Cheers Alex, I forgot my McCoy is actually loop-wheeled like those Ricksons. No side stitches on the body, it's one seamless tube. Amazing piece of kit. I've machine washed it countless times and you couldn't tell.
I'm not just a geeky snob though, I take a cheap Uniqlo as well but quality wise you get what you pay for. The true Japanese reproductions are well dense, with the most intricate marl.
I've got a couple of the Beans.
Might well get another, although the light grey is perennially out of stock.
Good value and hard wearing in my estimation.