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#1 2008-10-14 10:40:01
- Taylor McIntyre
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The New Andover Shop Catalogue -
Got mine today - Business as usual I'm glad to see.
Question: Lots of patch Tweed trou. on show this season... Thoughts?
I tend to write off all the "bad taste" (from an Anglo POV) items as 'GTH' just like I did with Madras trou. a few minutes ago on the 'Trad in the UK' thread.
But!
I'm too lazy to re-check Tom Wolfe's usage of 'GTH', but I do know that all this jolly patch and loud stuff pre-dates his coining of the term.
So what was all this before it was 'GTH'?
Horace? Anyone?
What did it all originally mean?
Best -
J.
#2 2008-10-14 10:48:41
- HL Poling & Sons
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I think before TW put a name to it, it was just considered "fun". I seriously doubt that anyone wearing those things was, consciously or un-, giving anyone the bird. They were just fun things to wear, not to be taken seriously.
#4 2008-10-22 21:35:02
- Coolidge
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#5 2008-10-23 05:48:49
- Taylor McIntyre
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I can't pay you enough for that post, Mr. Coolidge.
A voice from the real world.
Best -
J.
#6 2008-10-23 09:11:30
- tripchauncey
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Re: The New Andover Shop Catalogue -
Chums,
I concur. Brilliant post by ol Coolidge. Clothes are never just clothes,, nor are they the golden ticket to class or status or whatnot.
I also concur that GTH loses its meaning or fun if the wearer does not have the underlying credibility to start. The clothes wear the man as ol Uncle Russ would say.
Cheerio.
#7 2008-10-23 09:46:33
- AQG
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Re: The New Andover Shop Catalogue -
Hmmm, a conflation of fun and credibility. I don't completely buy it, but then, I'm not looking for credibility. I'd much prefer to be regarded as incredible or, at the very least, improbable. So, I'm sticking to Mr. Poling's theory of fun. I really enjoy all of the garish stuff. The dandy arm of Ivy. And yes, Russell is correct that it's all in bad taste and not just from the English POV. It's really outre here, too. There's the fun. Far from telling anyone to sod off, I deliberately invite others to make a joke at my expense. It's a happy thing.
I really know bugger all about New England. Only been there a handful of times and didn't go to school there. I only know how I've always dressed. If you can't have a bit of fun on the weekend, when can you?
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#10 2008-10-27 01:43:47
- Horace
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Re: The New Andover Shop Catalogue -
Chums,
It may soon be time for me my next chumly purchase of an Andover patch tweed jacket.
I haven't peeked into the new catalog yet. But will tomorrow.
Cheerio,
H.
""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#11 2008-10-28 11:58:18
- Taylor McIntyre
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A bump for this thread before I return to my drinking.
T'was here that 'credibility' got mentioned and by an American at that. I merely passed on the message.
#12 2008-10-30 08:42:43
- BulldogNH
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I received my catalog yesterday. It seemed a bit thin--very few jackets to purchase, for one thing. I guess this makes sense given that they do most of their business at least in Cambridge with MTM, but I wish they had provided more samples to give some ideas.
I know this has been asked before, but do we have any idea of the source for the kind of double brushed shetlands Andover and Press (this year) are selling? It's not that I want to bypass the store; I will just purchase there. But I'm curious who makes these things and where. I'd like to know the same thing about O'Connell's. Their sweaters look very much more like the Brooks of old or even McGeorge, but I thought this maker had gone out of business???
#13 2008-10-30 19:54:52
- Coolidge
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Mine came this afternoon. Noting particularly appealed to me except the scarf on 19. Is it me or is there less to this catalog this year?
#14 2009-03-25 07:38:54
- BulldogNH
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FYI, it looks like the Andover shop has a new website. Much of the stock appears to be the same, but there are some additions, such as RTW dinner jackets.
http://www.theandovershop.com/web/home.htm
#15 2009-03-25 08:06:06
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Re: The New Andover Shop Catalogue -
they spend money on a website and then only use thumbnail images.
"I'll have the viyella shirt in the picture please mr Andover. No, not that one, ergh, no, no higher. No, er the one next to that one. Yes the greenish one kind of check type one. No, no, that's brown, I meant the green one...."
(one of my pet hates is the rise of the 'click here for larger image' and you click and get a big frame with the same crappy thumbnail.)
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#16 2009-03-25 14:50:19
- tintin
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Often "GTH" in the south was referred to as Jack Ass. As in, "look at those jack ass pants. " Loud and colorful and very preppy. Still worn in the south and very popular. I first heard this phrase in the late 70s and it survived well into the 80s until "Go to Hell" seemed to take over.