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#1 2009-04-23 07:46:02

Suitedbooted2000
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Has Ivy ever been Pure

Hi,
from all this talk of is Mod and Skin Ivy (which the answer is no just inspired by Ivy and Jazz).
So my question is HAS IVY EVER BEEN PURE or has it been wated down over the years.

right now i've open a BIG kettle of fish, just wanted to know what you think

Lewis

Last edited by Suitedbooted2000 (2009-04-23 07:47:08)

 

#2 2009-04-23 07:48:07

chetmiles
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Re: Has Ivy ever been Pure

Before the Second World War?  On the campuses?

 

#3 2009-04-23 07:50:03

Suitedbooted2000
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Re: Has Ivy ever been Pure

Now i've started this i think I REALLY SHOULD GET MY COAT   wink



Lewis (Head between my legs waitting for the kicking)

 

#4 2009-04-23 07:52:34

chetmiles
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Re: Has Ivy ever been Pure

Nope; it's good, Lewis.

 

#5 2009-04-23 07:53:49

chetmiles
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Re: Has Ivy ever been Pure

Kingstonian might have a few observations to make here.  He tends to cut to the chase.

 

#6 2009-04-23 07:59:01

Just Jim
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Re: Has Ivy ever been Pure

- Very Good, Lewis.

Ivy is one of the the biggest bastards on the block, IMO.

English, Italian, French, Norwegian... (Etc)

And therefore very American!

 

#7 2009-04-23 08:08:28

chetmiles
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Re: Has Ivy ever been Pure

I guess Ivy was 'pure' when it was worn by those who could afford it - before the Second World War.  But Jim's right.  Every time I think of, say, Paul Stuart, I think of something slightly other than Ivy.  Call it 'Ivy-style' if you like, but I would have thought a nice young middle-class lad like Miles Davis might have gone there as a natural thing - not in the way that, say, Buddy Holly would have gone to Millings.  Richard Channing's comments about blokes just basically chucking Paul Stuart's suits and all the trimmings into a shopping basket strikes me as a little, erm, peculiar...  I'm not saying it didn't happen that way, of course, it's just the way it strikes me.  For those whose fathers and grandfathers had worn the stuff it would have been a mundane rite of passage, I'm sure.  I guess they liked their 'Scottish' shoes and knitwear, perhaps in the same way the Highlands and tartan became fashionable amongst the mid-Victorians...

 

#8 2009-04-23 08:53:55

Just Jim
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Re: Has Ivy ever been Pure

I get your point.

It's that 'ripples in a pond' thing again isn't it?

It's an echo of an echo of an echo handed down to us.

 

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