I wanted to know opinions here about the weight of ties for different weights of suits.
Also for different seasons I wear differing ties. I stick to lighter weight ties with thin liners for the sunnier months and go for heavier silk and thick liners for winter. I also wear thicker ties with weekend jackets.
Is there a rule of thumb for all of this or is it generally just do as you like? I wanted to hear people's thoughts on the subject.
I try to keep tie weights consistent so the knot isn't too large for the tie space in my tab collar shirts and the tie drapes like a Bulgari (just about the best weight and drape out there in ready-to-wear, in my opinion, though I don't like most of the styles).
Another way in which Mulberrywood is a godsend.
Personally, I think ties should be lined with a medium to thin wool unless theyre for a casual pursuit or you like a larger knot.
You get a better knot with the medium to thin linings. Of course I realize that technically it's not this simple. Lining quality, the way its prepared and set into the tie itself and the stitiching of the tie silk, as well as the pattern of the tie all play a role in the knot's beauty. A great example is at Charvet where the ties always tie a beautiful knot and dimple. You really have to be a first rate loser to muck up the dimpling qualities of a Charvet tie.
But if the tie is thinly lined like Charvet, they are appropriate for summer. I dont know if a lighter look is necessary for summer anymore. Maybe some of the lighter printed silks (There are heavy weight prints) are more appropriate for tropical weight suits.
I was trying to think of some concrete examples but really none come to mind in the silk family. For instance, a satin finish tie picks up the summery feel and also provides a splash of relief for winter's drier flannels. So maybe silk is silk is silk. Its a good question you pose that gets rather philisophical.
I've always appreciated the aesthetics of wool neckties for the Fall and Winter months, especially those in cloth usually found on sport coats and suits, such as houndstooth and even Prince of Wales, but the ones I've owned have made a bulky, inelegant knot. Luciano Barbera makes wool ties with great fabrics, or at least used to.
Do people here have any objection to the wearing of printed ties? I get the feeling woven is the preferred route.
Very true.
English status symbols are often oddly anti-status symbols.
Anything too obvious is looked on as being vulgar & flashy.
Wearing something like a Rolex is viewed as being very 'Golf Club'. A bit nouveau, doncha know.
The fact that it is a good watch doesn't enter into it. It's too flash and 'The Wrong People' wear them.
One of the initial reactions I heard from certain Fogey Friends when they heard the news of Princess Diana's death was how vulgar it was. In a car crash in Paris with an Arab? How tacky. Nobody ever talks about that anymore. And quite right too.
And I can only agree again.
From an English point of view the price of ties in America always amazes me. Imagine paying almost as much for your tie as you would for your shirt! Unheard of.
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For a while I got away from wearing printed ties almost completely but I've recently re-discovered them and can see myself moving to about half woven and half printed. I have a certain width I prefer that I don't ever expect to vary by seasons.
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Woven or Print? I didn't realize there was a distinction until I read Flusser about 6 years ago. Most of my ties are woven because I like the texture and light effects. I do still have some printed bow-ties (20+ years old) and some whimsical long ties for seasonal use, like the Grinch for Christmas, or basketballs, or a couple of 80's Mickey Mouse ties I thought were cute at the time. I have pack-rat issues ...
I never pitched my bolos (or bolas) either, though I no longer wear them. Some of them actually feature nice artwork.
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