Point two: These web sites are a monument to the past. Our fashion will come, just like it has for the last 50 years, from California. No one will wear suits and ties 40 years from now. No one will wear ties 25 years from now. The money will be made in asia in the future. Even I am smart enough to know where to look to the future. There will be no ties. get with it.

Tom, as an original member of what was to become the 'SFRP' on the old GoPreppy site, is right to call himself the father of much of what has followed online. This is especially true of the 'Trad' phenomenon.
Tom used the term 'Trad' from Flusser's (correct) usage of it on GoPreppy where young Skip/Skippy/Harris latched onto it and also onto Tom.
Harris, being young and in a hurry, never did the homework though, never did all the background work and so his take on Trad was... what it is. Wafer thin.
Had Harris learned more from Tom then we would now have a better 'Trad'. One more rooted in reality.

The Net is a theatrical place. Different 'roles', diferent 'voices' declaiming different monologues. Tom always stayed very consistant in my opinion. I look forward to anything he has to say before he stops.

When last I talked to Sally Fowler on the 'Preppy Journal' site she remembered Tom with great affection. Skip/Skippy/Harris just didn't feature for her.


- James

Why the theatrics? Anyone that has contributed as much and has spent as much time and effort as tmc22 deserves to be able to go out with a little theatricality. He's going out with a bang, better to burn out than fade away. Good luck to you mate. Thanks for all your posts.

I do agree with Big Tony. If you're gonna go out with guns blazing...

Last edited by Beatnik (2009-11-05 09:21:08)

^That one was on a Robert Fripp album. Great track.

Its not only America that's going for the burn out, its Great Britain. Its odd how we have transferred all our manufacturing to a totalitarian communist country.  The next phase is about to hit, the middle class jobs. They're starting to go, as these nations start doing it for themselves, all the managerial, administration, high tech design and engineering. Got a masters degree, that ain't gonna' save you from the scrap heap.

I'm in engineering construction for the oil & gas, and I fight everyday, in my small way, to keep manufacturing in Europe. Almost daily I get reports of valve failures, castings cracking up on first cycles, dodgy QC reports signed off by several third party inspectors, gamma radiation contamination in stainless steel, etc, etc, all from China and India.  But it doesn't matter, even factoring in the shoddyness, the risk, the failures, its cheaper than the West.  But is it as good, ofcourse not, the quality isn't there.

And is this the future, a world without artisans and useable skills in the West? Our leaders need to start reading Shelley and Blake, instead of scamming the system like the UK politicians. Or as William Burroughs stated, time to storm the reality studio and splice the tape deck. Hurry up gentlemen, its time.....

Its about Quality, do we value it, or not? The same with clothes and style, will we all end up wearing cheap shoes with plastic gold plated buckles?  The West has said quite clearly, no we don't value quality, lets make a quick buck and move to Singapore. Nations? We're vulture capitalists, who gives a fuck.

Meanwhile, our soldiers are bogged down in guerilla and kamakazee suicide war, and our politicians and leaders act not in our nation's interest but quietly, assuringly, destroy our future from within.

Last edited by The Ace Face (2009-11-05 12:27:02)

Hmmm, I am out of booze.

I'd love Tom, as one who was in on all this from the start, to give us his final summing up before he moves on.

GoPreppy came & went.
AAAC became the new place.
AAAT was brought into being...
Then there was us, here.
And after us, The Curriculum and so many other blogs came too ...

We now have more than ever before online, and at all sorts of levels & from all sorts of different motivations.

Oh what a Circus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YInWq7qt4PA

What do you think, Tom? From where you started to all of this now - You must feel a long way from home online these days.

Best -

Why save venting for when you leave?

Gay Friday...
Ivy Girl Friday...
Heavy Ivy Friday (That failed!)...
Spycatcher Friday...

Maybe today can be Ace's Friday?


I say Go For It!


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Hey Uncle I liked Heavy Ivy Friday...

Yeah come on Ace baby, lay some of that heavy shit on us. Your crazy rap makes me really flip out. Come on Ace Daddyo preach to us your wigged out beat gospel...