i saw a pair of nettleton blucher oxfords in reddish-brown grain at the thrift earlier today. beautiful shoes, 9.5 b/d or d/b i think. anyways, a good authority tells me that they are one of the best makes ever. id never heard of them before. are there any other obscure brands that beat the better known florsheim, AE, alden? what about hanover? when did these brands kick the bucket?