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#51 2011-11-06 10:25:08
- Andy_B
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
You're quite right. It's a difficult concept under these circumstances.
#52 2011-11-06 10:26:58
- Yuca
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Ironic protest under difficult circumstances, in the words of Pete Meaden.
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#55 2011-11-06 14:01:09
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
The stereotypical picture of a Mexican is of someone wearing the sort of hats in the picture - however sombreros have got nothing whatsoever to do with Puerto Ricans or Cubans. The vast majority of Latinos involved in the consumption and production of Latin jazz back in the day were Puerto Rican or Cuban. I expect a lot of Mexicans liked that music, but I'm sure their numbers were small compared to the Puerto Rican or Cuban fans. As far as the artist was concerned, Latinos are all the same.
If the artist had lampooned all Latinos, that may or may not have been offensive, but he didn't even bother to get their ethnicity right, which is offensive. It's the same mentality that insists that all Asians are Pakis - they're not worth differentiating.
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#56 2011-11-06 14:07:46
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
I will consult some people from the Latin music community to see what their opinions are.
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#58 2011-11-06 14:19:37
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
We've had some great subjects on the forum today.
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#59 2011-11-06 14:52:38
- Harpo
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Randy lower-class trifler
#60 2011-12-01 02:59:13
- Chiltern Street
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Anyone with a name like Cal Tjader should also be shot in front of his wife and children.
#61 2011-12-01 03:02:49
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
It was his real name so I can't agree. However I would have serious doubts about anyone who chose to call themselves Tjader.
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#62 2011-12-01 03:03:36
- Chiltern Street
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Unless it was for artistic purposes.
#63 2011-12-01 03:08:00
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Personally I prefer people like you, with a straightforward, everyday name that never changes.
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#65 2012-11-30 06:45:32
- 4F Hepcat
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Aye, we managed to derail that one alright.
I'm really getting back into latin music at the moment, especially those cumbia collections from Soundway records.
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#66 2012-11-30 07:48:41
- fxh
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
heppie - One of my great delights was reading the book Mambo Kings Play Songs of Love with the accompanying CD compilation playing whilst I read.
#67 2012-11-30 10:07:49
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Does 2 buttons undone count as sprezz?
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#68 2012-11-30 13:57:02
- Harpo
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
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#71 2012-12-01 01:23:34
- fxh
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
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#74 2012-12-02 05:57:26
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#75 2012-12-02 09:49:38
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Re: West Coast Cool: Cal Tjader
Randy lower-class trifler