I spoke with well connected people in the footwear industry today, there is a good reason why Made-in-China make inferior footwear. The Chinese may use the same leathers, machines and lasts that many other lower end shoe manufacturers use, but they still make inferior products, why?
Experienced makers have spent time observing and teaching in Chinese shoe factories. The biggest problem with Chinese production is their cultural thinking in the work place. The biggest factors leading to poor quality footwear is:
• the reluctance of the Chinese to report problems in the production line (a common trait in Chinese factory workers). Eg, if the boots are made on the wrong last and looks all distorted, the worker who spots it will not say anything because he doesn’t want to get his supervisor in trouble. Faulty production still goes through because subordinates never tell their superiors and no-one cares, and often workers don't know any better. When problems occur, people just keep it to themselves.
Factories often use wrong components to make the shoes because the workers have no clue how to make shoes eg, a ladies shoe may have a heel put on that is too short, but an identicle womens shoe may have a different heel altogeather.
• Near enough is good enough. If the wrong insole is put in, it’s no big deal, near enough is good enough, the left shoe may have a red insole and the right shoe a blue insole, good enough. No-one is going to dob you in to a supervisor, so they get away with it. They will also cut corners if they are not watched very carefully. Having non shoemakers run factories isn’t helping the problem.
People advise them on what lasts to use and how to make shoes properly, but as soon as the expert has his back turned, the factory workers revert back to their old ways (doing things the cheap easy way, not the best way) or using cheap shitty lasts because they look similar (to untrained eye) to the more expensive better shaped last.
• Choosing factories for shoe production isn’t a big deal. If factory A is closed (the factory they usually use) on a certain day, then use a different factory. If the factory charges too much, use a different factory. Substituting for cheaper methods is common place.
Made-in –China is becoming too expensive for low end shoe agents now, things are starting to be Made-in-Cambodia now. According to industry experts, things will eventually move to Africa when the political climate changes for the better
Last edited by The_Shooman (2010-08-04 08:20:34)
but they're cheaper, price is all that matters for 99% of customers, or if it's not all that matters businesses have marketing departments that will spend millions to convince you that price is all that matters, terribly sad as there is not reason why they can't do things right, i imagine a good boutique brand will come our of china someday and the forums will be abuzz with the debate whether to buy or not
it is interesting what will happen when we run out of cheap labour markets, africa being the last one
i guess the plan will be to always keep someone/somewhere poor and desperate, which can be done easily
Both posts are very thoughtful and insgihtful. The problems, well documented by Shooey above, are not the only ones associated with trying to manufacture in China. I won't bore you with war stories, but suffice it to say that, as in all things, bromide is the enemy of the thoughtful. Management theories become pablum and replace thinking--they are implemented by those that cannot actually think. This does not mean that there can be no good brought from seeking low cost manufacturing, the problem is that these theories were put into place by many without the understanding of the consequences. For instance, can you find Duckhead khakis? People do not seem to understand the interplay of brand identity, manufacturing cost and profitability, they are generally found in an uneasy coalition which is easily set out of balance by an incessant focus on a single aspect of the riddle.
You miss the true problem.
An American 'earns' twenty times what a Chinese is paid. Yet the Chinese does the saving and the American does not. This will not go on forever.
Last edited by The_Shooman (2010-08-05 03:34:55)
Interesting points and yet, despite all the problems and inherent flaws in Chinese manufacturing the West continues its transfer of the means of production and wealth like the dirty filthy crony capitalists we truly are.
The idea that 300 million Americans, or 65 million UK citizens can live off "intellectual capital" is increasingly becoming a difficult sell as the huge borrowing that disguised the hollowed productive capacity of the west comes to its inevitable halt. Hit the wall and then hit the ground.
The critical problem with Made-in-China, will become all too apparent as those economies in the West wake up to the effect that they are now technogically backward and bankrupt. Social breakdown and poverty never dreamed about by the hippy baby boomers.
In five years time the adherents of Globalisation will be seen as the traitors they really are.
This century belongs to China, we're just the fag ends of the dreams of our children, a future the baby boomers have made every move to deny their grandchildren.
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Last edited by The_Shooman (2010-08-10 03:00:11)
Apart from the good points made already, people are overly starry eyed about China. At the end of the day it is a dictatorship whose centralised government keeps the price of labour cheap by artificially lowering the value of their currency. They aren't going to get away with this forever partly because the people in the country won't put up with being undervalued (ie screwed) like this, and partly because the international community is unhappy with the massive trade imbalance.
This is also a dictatorship that is responsible for more murders than Hilter and Stalin combined:
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
Unlike the Soviets, the National "Socialists"/Nazis in China have never gone through a Khrushchev type of "thaw" where they acknowledged the errors of their past. The murders continue. The trouble is that once the truth of this past really does hit the Chinese people, who knows what instability this will cause. Civil war and break aways of regions into independent nations like after the end of the Soviet Union are not improbable.
As for India, well, there is something else. The biggest stable democracy in the world, whose very birth is one of the great stories of the 20th century, where every educated person speaks English.
I have a different take on it. China will advance because of its ruthless single mindedness. Conditions will improve for the workforce and buy off protest. India will always be riven with divisions.
A black guy that I work and play golf with made an observation that wherever in the world you see the Chinese and the Indian living side by side the Chinese is always top dog.
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let's be clear: the chinese are not a group of supermen, right wingers and commie-hunters might find it politically and idealogically useful to inflate their chosen enemies into ruthless foes in an existential war for nothing less than the survival of our way of life, etc etc, remember the soviets were supermen at one time but that reputation vanished quickly once the truth about them was known
^ But they are so much better organised as a nation than the Indians where all sorts of religious and caste divides and self interest come into play.
China operates more effectively on the international scene. Internal tensions are inevitable in all nations.
Many of the Indians that I have dealt with on outsourcing are no great shakes either - incapable of using their own initiative most of the time.
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