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Last edited by Marc Grayson (2006-10-14 17:45:57)
Just digging through the archives here. I would imagine the Trads love this shirt. They do wear nicely. I have a few myself.
I remember the 'wrong' people used to wear Lacoste in England in the early Eighties, so I always kept away from the brand. A youth sub-culture of Football loving hooligans called 'Casuals' were at one time fond of the logo which spoilt it a bit for those of us who associated the shirt with Jack Lemmon in the film of 'The Odd Couple'. I say 'those of us'... there was probably only a handful of us!
I'm not much of a fan of logos myself either... I used to like to wear the Golden Fleece Brooks knit shirt when it was rarely seen in London. Now it's easy to buy here I think a no-logo knit shirt is the best way to go - Bean, even Landsend, etc.
... And it certainly saves a lot of money!
Miles
My wife (Mrs Away) has a very nice pair of Aquascutum checked trousers that she wears to potter around the village. A much nicer check than the now vulgar Burberry one. IMHO.
Actually - forget 'my humble opinion' - the truth about the death of the Burberry check is that it has become aspirational and so it is worthless now as signifying anything but wannabe status. A shame for such a respectable company... then again sales are up!
Mr Grayson - Thanks. Makes sense.
'Le Tigre' is new to me.
Penguin shirts were when? '50's, '60's? I only know them as a re-launched brand now-a-days.
Miles.
All too true, Sir.
'Chavs' are the current Burberry-loving media-created cult in the UK (Well they were 2 years ago).
Of course they don't exist.
The Burberry brand is dragged down-market & sales are through the roof (as are copies of the Burberry check on certain oddly chosen items of clothing - I'm thinking of the low-cut Burberry-checked bra worn as outerwear that I see in down-market clubs in Leicester Square. Why do I go to these places?).
Odd business branded clothing.
Not nice.
Miles.
Rene "Le Crocodile"Lacoste's nickname apparently originated when he admired a crocodile suitcase in a store window, and his Davis Cup captain promised to buy it for him if he won an important upcoming match. He never got the bag, but U.S. sports writers took up the name because it described his style on the court, according to the Associated Press.
When Izod began marketing Lacoste shirts in America, the shirts became known, on the street, as "Alligator" shirts. When Izod realized this, rather than correct the public and educate them about the proud history of the shirt and its namesake, they began the "Alligator"advertising campaign.
They relaunched Le Tigre shirts and they are very nice, much better than they were back in the 80's.
Last edited by Horace (2006-05-23 05:12:09)
Fascinating topic.
The Press flap-pocket OCBD must belong along with the Brooks perfect shade of pink in the 'one look and you know where it's from' stakes.
The Brooks tie Horace mentions is, I think, all their own work. I can't think of a regimental tie like it (Correct me if I'm wrong, please).
Any other icons, anybody?
Any other 'logos' without being a logo?
Miles
I grew up wearing alligator shirts in the early 70s.
Last edited by Miles Away (2006-05-23 07:41:53)
Slightly related to the above -
When did Press switch from the old red label to the current blue one?
Any significance in the colour change?
Miles
Last edited by Miles Away (2006-05-23 08:37:39)
Sorry I have wandered so far away from Bernard Lacoste...
I forgot the Troy Shirtmakers flap-pocket OCBD yesterday. I've two from '86 on which the pocket flaps are very Press-esq as I recall, although the flap may be slightly more pointed. I'll dig them out later & compare & contrast.
Maybe the Press flap has a unique shape to it?
Miles
Here we go -
Did Troy make for Press in the mid-eighties?
(Only joking, then again maybe they did...?)
Very nice Press-esq pocket flap on the old Troy of '86... It still comes to slightly more of a point than the Press of '88.
Please, let nobody ask "Does it matter?"
Miles
On the J. Simons website under 'Ivy Icons', or whatever it's called, they have the well known shot of Monty Clift wearing what I am sure is a Press BD along with nicely 'Boston Cracked' shoes...
The flap style on the pocket is very like the current flap Press are offering.
Maybe my 2" '88 Press pocket-flaps merely reflect another aspect of the general down-sizing of collars & tie widths that were enjoyed back then?
Having said that, my '88 Press shirts have a rather long, very roll-y collar. I should have measured the length of them before I put them away...
Enough of this?
Enough!
Miles
Last edited by Miles Away (2006-05-24 04:11:43)