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#1 2010-08-30 00:57:21

Rip Rig & Panic
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Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

I love authentic pea coats.  Mine cost £50 and still has the owner's name inside.  From the US Merchant Marine, I think (correct me if I'm wrong), and it looks like I'll be wearing it soon.  But the one being offered by Press this fall at (if memory serves me well) three hundred dollars strikes me as odd and wrong.  I reached much the same conclusion over duffel coats: you want the real deal.  Others besides Press offer them, and I'm not singling Press out.  I feel the same way about the others.

 

#2 2010-08-30 01:26:10

shamrockmonkey
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

im sure the older ones were 1000 times better, but you can still get a decent one for a little over 100 bucks.


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#3 2010-08-30 02:22:51

J. Maclochlainn
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

I have tried on mass market peacoats for retail sale and I'll tell you know the fabric is thinner and the construction is not as robust. Always go with military surplus for peacoats and HEAVY winter overcoats.

 

#4 2010-08-30 04:16:07

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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat


Contrary to lies of FNB and Woofboxer, I (and most of the other "Buff Bastards") have been banned from posting on this forum. There are only a few posters left so don't waste your time on here. This forum is dead and nobody cares.

 

#5 2010-08-30 07:32:56

Fred
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

How does the Sterlingwear version, offered by JS, fit into this?

 

#6 2010-08-30 07:38:40

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

I'd still just go for the cheaper, authentic option, Fred, even if John was offering a free cup of coffee with every one purchased.

 

#7 2010-08-30 08:56:56

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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Last edited by ScarletStreet (2010-08-30 10:42:16)


"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken

 

#8 2010-08-30 10:37:17

JDelage
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

 

#9 2010-08-30 21:29:36

shamrockmonkey
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat


I brush my teeth with minty paste/I hate when Liquor goes to waste.

 

#10 2010-08-30 21:34:10

shamrockmonkey
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

get cheap limey donkey jackets for  17 pounds or whatever and call them "college coats", "campus coats" , or "collegiate car coats". more or less what the US clothing stores did.


I brush my teeth with minty paste/I hate when Liquor goes to waste.

 

#11 2010-08-30 23:41:52

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Donkey jackets?  Millwall hard cases wore those on the terraces.  We want to look like Harvard men trying to keep warm on the touchline, not psychopathic dock workers.

 

#12 2010-08-31 00:12:40

Moose Maclennan
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#13 2010-08-31 02:38:38

Natural Sole Brother
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Ebay still sees a plentiful stream of the real thing. The key is to look under Militaria rather than Men's Clothing. Other than pre-WWII examples they still sell relatively cheaply, even in pristine condition.

Sterlingwear is a contractor of the current issued USN model and as pointed out above offer a few grades of coat. They're not bad, but really can't compare to the older articles in weight, feel and finish.

I wouldn't normally recommend The Fedora Lounge for any historical research, but here it offers an invaluable guide to dating the coats and an exhaustive run-down in the differences between various vintages and ranks:

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=37699

 

#14 2010-08-31 03:11:07

Kingstonian
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

 

#15 2010-08-31 03:19:45

Kingstonian
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Here is one septic who has taken a shine to the coat
http://www.shawthing.com/Blogs/Personal/Loving-My-Donkey-Jacket

Of course if you have better taste you would go for the all cloth version. Vinyl shoulders will not be needed for your purposes.

I think this is the type to go for:-
http://www.bennevisclothing.com/Donkey-Jacket

 

#16 2010-08-31 03:27:45

Kingstonian
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Just noticed on the last picture. Even donkey jackets have tabs on the outside now. Why?

 

#17 2010-08-31 03:29:31

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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Mention of donkey jackets misses the point completely. Although the peacoat was a utilitarian garment it was beautifully made and tailored. If you examine a vintage USN coat you cannot fail to marvel at the finish and workmanship. The specification was extremely high.

Piffle about donkey jackets and the SWP mystifies me.

 

#18 2010-08-31 03:33:40

Trojan
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Does anyone know if Gloverall peacoats any good?


Robbo what a fucking wanker you are.

 

#19 2010-08-31 03:35:14

Kingstonian
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

There is more room in a donkey jacket than a peacoat too.

Associations aside, I much prefer the cut of them.

 

#20 2010-08-31 03:39:43

Trojan
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

or Barbour's version?


Robbo what a fucking wanker you are.

 

#21 2010-08-31 03:56:03

Yuca
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Last edited by Yuca (2010-08-31 03:56:54)


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#22 2010-08-31 04:06:22

Trojan
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat


Robbo what a fucking wanker you are.

 

#23 2010-08-31 04:07:40

Trojan
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

The Barbour peacoat looks more fitted than the Gloverall.

Any thoughts on a more fitted peacoat?


Robbo what a fucking wanker you are.

 

#24 2010-08-31 04:08:15

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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

Last edited by Natural Sole Brother (2010-08-31 04:09:34)

 

#25 2010-09-01 06:42:35

Trojan
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Re: Dubious: The J.Press Pea Coat

A peacoat in some form or another could well be my next purchase.

Even if it's a dubious one wink


Robbo what a fucking wanker you are.

 

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