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#1 2011-11-25 02:02:10

Andy_B
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Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

What a lovely sleek motor.  I was brought up, after 1964, on the good old VW 'Beetle' - not, at that time, fashionable, I shouldn't have thought.  This is something else altogether.

 

#2 2011-11-25 02:30:31

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Theo tells the story of how he eventually bought JS' one from him after a long period of discussion... The real story behind that delay is because the thing used to burst into flames & JS didn't want to cremate a mate. Not sure if Theo knows that.

 

#3 2011-11-25 03:05:58

Tomiskinky
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

 

#4 2011-11-25 03:08:58

Andy_B
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Yea!!

 

#5 2021-11-09 04:50:06

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Just to even things out...  I think this might be more to the taste of TRS...  I see we had several car threads already...  Apologies...

 

#6 2021-11-09 06:36:59

RobbieB
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

The Kharmann Ghia is a beauty.
I have my eye on a split screen VW from the sixties. It's currently sitting in a neighbour's barn in Finland. It's been there at least 10 years unloved and in need of some work. I fancy it as a project to do with my brother in law. We have made tentative enquiries but we may have to play a waiting game.
I nearly bought a Saab convertible a while back and now they seem to be going up in price what with the shortage of second hand cars now.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#7 2021-11-09 16:57:17

Tworussellstreet
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Cars pretty much leave me cold, but when I was told, many moons ago, that John Simons had a Karmann Ghia when he lived in his little pad on Flask Walk in Hampstead in the 60s I set out to investigate. It wasn't difficult to fall for the modest but seductive curves of this VW Beetle encased in a body designed in Milan by Ghia. I got a ride in one a few years ago - slow and clunky by modern standards but thrilling nonetheless to hear the rattle of the air-cooled engine as she trundled along the side roads of Berkshire.

 

#8 2021-11-10 02:57:22

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

I'm a confirmed/convinced non-driver.  The average modern car, with their daffy names like Nissan Clitoris, also leave me feeling a tad chilly.  My wife and putative son-in-law (the cuddly Mr.Osin) favour/ed the Mini.  We now run an old Polo.  My late father had three VWs in a row: the old 'ugly car'. 
Flask Walk, eh?  Very nice, very nice indeed.  Interesting neighbours I should have thought and perhaps still with that Ruth Ellis/trendy-leftie/intellectual Jewish vibe.

 

#9 2021-11-10 03:53:58

Tomiskinky
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Only ever owned a single car in 30 years - that was said Ugly Car. I rarely drive, I live in the city and I pretty much cycle everywhere I can or take public transport - why would you not?

Should I leave the city and require a car, then I would probably ere towards a classic VW again, the one I favour is sadly the most unattainable in cost and rarity, but never say never.

 

#10 2021-11-10 04:00:34

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Tom, I love your - avatar, is it?  Who he be?

 

#11 2021-11-10 05:23:36

woofboxer
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

@RobbieB - I'm on my third SAAB 900 turbo, all having been the 'Classic' pre 1993 original shape. The first two were 3 door hatchbacks and the current is a convertible. Niggly little things go wrong, like most old cars, but overall they are very reliable and not much stops them in their tracks. They're a lot of fun to drive. The key is having a man in a shed who can fix things for you and who has access to a supply of parts. I imagine there's a few SAABs around and a good back up network for them where you live.


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#12 2021-11-10 06:00:33

RobbieB
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Woof- I've had a SAAB in the past and have always liked them. My one had minor electrical problems but not much else went wrong until someone drove into me. I remember you had a decent looking SAAB.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#13 2021-11-10 07:07:41

Tomiskinky
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

AFS - Tom, I love your - avatar, is it?  Who he be?

It's actually a screen shot from footage of the Apollo 11 launch - much like Jazz on a Summers day and the Jim Marsh Jazz Festival book, it's as much about the crowd as it is the event, just thought it looked wonderful

https://youtu.be/4cOhZy7dhTo

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#14 2021-11-10 07:16:06

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Tom, you're right, it does.

 

#15 2021-11-11 01:31:45

Tworussellstreet
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

One of the things Chinsfold mocked about the manifesto pamphlet 'The Ivy Look' was its extension of an approach to dressing into lifestyle accoutrements like the Karmann Ghia and the Zippo lighter, but then Chinny was a bit of a turd. A large pompous turd in a polo coat smoking a pipe.

 

#16 2021-11-11 01:36:42

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Well: one can - and should - complement the other.  'Lifestyle' covers a lot of ground.  I've read, more than once, that carping review and puzzled over its lack of generosity - as though jealousy was gnawing at his vitals.  Maybe he should have gone back to studying old copies of 'Esquire' and 'Playboy'.

 

#17 2021-11-11 02:55:04

Runninggeez
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

Chinny was just an envious anti Brit IMO.

 

#18 2021-11-11 03:14:13

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

To be fair, R, he was treated rather badly on here.  The Internet can be a dangerous place, as we know from death/rape threats etc, being sent to authors, MPs etc.  What should be fun (and interesting): discussing clothing, cars and the like can get unpleasant.  We all have these 'user' names, which simply grant us an internet persona.  Even my wife discusses cancer with other women and uses a pseudonym.  Our JFM was a dedicated wind-up artist who loved nothing more than for people to join his gang.  I did myself for a while then thought better of it.  Better dealing with our TRS or Yuca, each of whom will tell you what's on their mind. 
On the other hand, I did not - and do not - understand Mr. Cs disavowal of an Ivy 'lifestyle'.  The clothing can never really be divorced from music - to give an obvious example: if someone on here claimed to hate black music I'd be scratching the back of my head.  Cars, cigarettes (or not), art, architecture, design - it all goes in the mix.  2 Russell Street was all about that.  Press and Brooks were, I suppose, about something rather different - for their regular customers.  O'Connell's, though, still possesses an air of mystique.  Oh - and more than 'lifestyle', as TRS might confirm - there's 'attitude'.

 

#19 2021-11-11 04:03:26

Runninggeez
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

From my lurking I knew that JFM was a bit of a wind up merchant, but Chinny seemed to have this arrogance and about him. Not that that is a reason to be treated badly. Maybe a little humility could've gone a long way.
I had the odd dealing with him on fb Ivy Style page, I thought he was quite rude and come over as a bit of a "know it all", and he appeared to dislike any postings made by Brit's. Sometimes making snidey comments or taking the postings down.

 

#20 2021-11-11 04:06:29

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Ivy Motoring: Kharmann Ghia

A lot of rivalry between that pair, R, that did no-one any favours in the end.

 

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