I just re-read it and can't see that '66.
Nothing wrong with that if it was just a statement, but he's quoting my post, so he must be talking about picking up on details as being silly. I can't really read that any other way. Otherwise why quote me?
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/\ Me paranoid...who said that, come on who said it, I know someone said it!!!!!!!!
No, just wasn't sure how it read, therefore clarifying. I wouldn't respond when there is ambiguity.
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This is a very nice chambray shirt from RRL I have, made nicer by its availability at deep discount on ebay...
http://ninadecoito.blogspot.com/2009/08/rrl-chambray-shirt.html
Very nice Chambray shirt! Last time I wore one my sister in law said that I looked "very 80s"... I don't think so!
BTW, what do you prefer: keeping it plain, buttoning it down, or pinning through the collar?
I think we should include welding coats as "ivy" . they have that cool rigid fabric like old staprest (but all natural cotton to inhibit melting onto skin and satisfy purists), minimalist single breasted styling, slim lapels, industrial seafoam green color that wouldnt look out of place in an old LL Bean catalog....whats not more to like? and, i have an extra one ill sell someone! and plenty more where that came from...
As apprentices we were issued with shirts from Universal Overall of Chicago. Great snap placket work shirts, in "durable press" 100% cotton. they got kind of a sheen with repeated washings , especially on the elbows. Then they apparently picked up and moved to China, and my last year of school they handed out the only other american item they could find, terrible twill buttondowns that looked like they came from a late 90s eddie bauer clearance rack. i christened them the "ebteks", which caught on, refusing to wear any other but my Universal Overall apparel.
I don't know if it was this thread or another that suggested Pointer Bros. stuff, but it's absolute crap quality. Made in America, for sure, but that's about it.
Funny enough, and I know me Uncle Jimmy will like this, apparently sewn in the same town as the eye doc resides.
... We still love the fact that the Eye Doc can't see straight!
theyre a non-union company from the deep south. the same logic is behind "american made" toyotas. US sweatshops are still sweatshops. as far as I'm concerned it may as well be made somewhere else.
-as far as im concerned, until i see proof to the contrary anything operating without union protection in the south is a sweatshop, because its allowed to be. those factories that japanese car manufacturers built down there have twice the accident and twice the FATALITIES of "inefficient" car manufacturers in the north (which are the most productive car plants in the world, its so much easier to blame the guys who have nothing to do with banking, marketing, etc. however).
-nonunion employers can charge just a hair under union shops while paying the employees less than half of scale. that pushes the overall cost of labor up, making it better for small independent shopowners.
-unions do make it better for all workers by pushing through workplace regulations and elitist, layabout things like the 40 hr. work week (which is now slipping in the US with the decline of unions, the opposite of the rest of the civilized world).
-if you want to talk about mediocrity and laziness, hit an "independent" job where everyone is stoned and/or hiding due to the fact that there are no drug tests and the job isnt worth keeping anyway.
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I can see Tony's point about the Unions being just as greedy and corrupt as the management nowadays, but in general I'm with shamrockmonkey...
The Unions were extremely important historically.
just because they're often run badly doesn't mean that they're obsolete.
IMO best clothes are union made...
off listening to some Woody Guthrie...
Ivy and Americana....
Where's the line?
Jeans, T-shirts, sweat shirts, sneakers, Pendletons, work boots etc... aren't Ivy League clothes strictly speaking, but hey, they definitely belong here, don't they...
Yes undoubtably, in my opinion, they do.
Think of those brave young Cornell Ornithology students trudging through the florida swamps and the forests in NC/SC looking for the Ivory Billed Woodpecker. They wouldn't be wearing loafers and tweed sacks but Red Wings and chambray, surely?
I can see it. I don't think there is a line, just people wearing different things for different reasons.
'Americana' is a better phrase than 'Work Wear' perhaps. I've hung onto bits: like a Woolrich half-zip I wear in the winter, mostly around the house. It's only a question of adaptation really, isn't it? - adopting or co-opting a certain item makes it 'Ivy' (or 'sub-Ivy'?) I do like chambray.
Chambray shirts definitely belongh ere... with a button down collar, I think they've lost all work wear connotations...
and Chambray jackets, of course, too...
light blue works better than pink, I guess...
never had a Chambray jacket, but they're on my list...
I agree, Americana sounds better than work wear....
If I had to get my hands dirty and work as a dustman again, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't wear expensive selvedge denim and Red Wing boots...
I do not think I would wear a chambray jacket. I once had a US sailors' jacket, but my wife advised me not to expose myself to ridicule.
Last edited by Republican Party Reptile (2011-08-30 06:13:35)
Nah, nor would I. But then again. plenty of vintage chambray and flannel and pendleton and redwing that are beyond wearing out and only really good for working in.
I wear vintage work gear when I'm working. Only donning modern stuff when I need high protection, ie on a chainsaw or what have you. But just out on site or in the office it's workwear all the way.
Why not? My trade (forestry) is built on this sort of kit. I'm a traditionalist is all.