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#1 2009-11-10 22:43:10

The_Shooman
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Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

l've been told by shoo industry people that Australian leathers can be the best in the world and are often better than the best stuff coming out of European tanneries. Here's some stuff they have said:

*  Rendenbach leather soles are not the ultimate, why would they be? Their type of tannery methods are used by other tanneries, it's not like Rendenbach are doing amazingly different or superior methods/treatments of their leather.

*  Hermes' buys all their crocadile leather exclusively from one tannery in Queensland Australia.

*  Australian leather can be superior because of the climatic conditions. The extra U.V light makes for a much stronger/tougher leather. ln Australia the creatures are outdoors all the time so they get the extra U.V light. ln Europe the creatures can be locked indoors for many months of the year due to cold weather, so there is less U.V light to strengthen the leather and make it super-superior quality.

There is also the theory (mine) that we get alot more U.V light down here, so our creatures are obviously getting more U.V exposure than any other creatures in the world, hence a tendency for real top notch leather to be sort.

l also have a theory that the soils are more used and abused in northern countries due to a longer period of not properly fertilising the soil (due to older and bigger populations). This means nutritionally poor grasses, grains and seeds for the animals; this means that leathers will suffer quality because the animal bodies have to skip steps in growing the skins. lf the animals are malnourished (most would be these days), how can you expect them to make quality hides if the neccessary minerals in the food isn't enough to feul quality hide growth. l am convinced that poor fertilisation and pollution have strongly contributed towards the decline in leather quality over the last 200 years.

(Carving up two lushious mountains the size of Mount Everest and putting it back into the soils is argued to solve the problem in the short term, but modern built up human living areas will ensure that it is impossible to sustain the practise long term. We will drain and drain and drain. l wonder where it is going to end; if we take and take, how can we keep on continuing to draw the good milk from our Mother? ).

*  Australian croc leather from the top end of Queensland and Northern Territory are better than most of the better Alligator leathers.

lnteresting l think.

Last edited by The_Shooman (2009-11-11 16:50:46)

 

#2 2009-11-10 23:50:37

Tomasso
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

Here are a couple articles that may be of interest:


"The high end tanning industry in the world is dominated by five tanneries. Three are in France of which two are owned by Hermes, one in Italy is owned by Gucci, and we are the fifth." CH Koh, Executive Director Heng Long International Ltd.

http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/198473959.html

"This acquisition will enable Hermès, which already owns 100% of Gordon-Choisy, a company specialising in the tanning of exotic leathers, to reinforce its tanning capacity and secure its supplies in order to meet robust demand for products (bags, small leather goods), particularly in crocodile skin."

http://www.euroinvestor.co.uk/news/story.aspx?id=9597283

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#3 2009-11-11 00:16:11

The_Shooman
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From: AUSTRALIA
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

lt's possible my sources are wrong about the Hermes' thing, the shoomen haven't worked with croc in years. Maybe i'm reporting old news. l'll be fine tuning my ear closer to Christmas, it's still full of fluff and cobwebs at the moment.

 

#4 2009-11-11 06:29:10

JDelage
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

The fact that the tanning is done in Hermes' sole ownership subs doesn't mean that the skins themselves are not sourced from Australia.  There aren't many salties over here.

 

#5 2009-11-11 07:14:34

Big Tony
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

Regarding UV light, unless my memory has deserted me completely, I suggest looking up info about the ozone hole which I believe affects the southern polar areas most of all (i.e. Australia gets more rays).


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#6 2009-11-11 14:22:36

Cruz Diez
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

Rendenbach soles have good durability but I would say they have about 2/3 the durability of hand-hammered soles of British origin.

Edit: thank God, as the latter are much more expensive to replace!

Last edited by Cruz Diez (2009-11-11 14:33:39)

 

#7 2009-11-11 16:41:35

The_Shooman
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

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#8 2009-11-11 17:59:45

John Rotten
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

Let's not forget those killer fucking birds that swoop down and attack people either, those things are pure creepshow..

 

#9 2009-11-11 18:15:05

interested observer
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.


"Any formal attack on ignorance is bound to fail because the masses are always ready to defend their most precious possession - their ignorance. "
— Hendrick Van Loon

Better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

 

#10 2009-11-11 18:49:01

The_Shooman
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#11 2009-11-11 22:33:31

Cruz Diez
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#12 2009-11-11 22:53:33

JDelage
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#13 2009-11-11 23:48:15

The_Shooman
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Re: Australian leathers, Hermes' quality.

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